Wanna see what Fallout was BEFORE it was released?

[The Kotex Kid]

Stop using Internet Explorer, then. That should fix those problems.
Also, you should be able to ignore the security warning.

Also, you should try using DOSBox. That should be able to run it.

Can't ignore the security problems. Windows straight up says NO BITCH, YOU CAN'T!

I suppose you're suggesting I use the overrated shitheap Firefox instead? Sorry, but I don't feel like downloading unstable 'fan written' plugins for what should be inclusive features anyway. Stupid ass open source.

I'll give DOSBox a shot however.

^^^^^
I can't remember half of the DOS commands it's been so long. So, I created a folder called DOSPROG in my C:, then 'mounted' my harddrive to DOSBox by typing mount c c:/dosprog. Then typed C:/ and tried running MAIN.EXE by typing dosprog/main.exe and nothing happens.

So is DOSBox just supposed to emulate the days when we would go into dos and type C:/doom for games of that nature?

Also, one little problems I'm having. After I copied the MAIN.EXE from the FALLOUT goodies folder and tried to run it, ever since I can't delete it off my desktop. It says in use or is in use by another program. Even after a few cold-boots this happens. Any idea how to stop it?

 

[Prudence]

DOS?! *Hisses like a vampire being shown a cross*

 

[Sander]

Can't ignore the security problems. Windows straight up says NO BITCH, YOU CAN'T!

I suppose you're suggesting I use the overrated shitheap Firefox instead? Sorry, but I don't feel like downloading unstable 'fan written' plugins for what should be inclusive features anyway. Stupid ass open source.

Open Source is potentially much more powerful than closed source, mainly because a lot of people using the programs are developers themselves, can fix the bugs themselves, and know what kind of information they need to give other developers about bugs, since most users just say 'it crashes!!!!' and give a heap of useless information, or much too little info.
Also, I don't have a clue what you're talking about with 'fan written' plugins that should be 'inclusive features'. It has every feature IE has, and more features, without any plugins.
And those plugins aren't unstable at all. Nor is the browser, which is actually a lot more stable than IE.
At least give that 'shitheap' a try.

I can't remember half of the DOS commands it's been so long. So, I created a folder called DOSPROG in my C:, then 'mounted' my harddrive to DOSBox by typing mount c c:/dosprog. Then typed C:/ and tried running MAIN.EXE by typing dosprog/main.exe and nothing happens.

Apparently you didn't know what you were doing when mounting something. You just mounted the directory c:\dosprog on the location c (or the other way around, since I can't remember the syntax required for DOSBox off the top of my head). Which means that you can access the content in the c:\dosprog directory at the location c in DOSBox.

 

[Rev. Layle]

Firefox is easily a superior browser. No need for plug-ins for most of it features. IE plug-ins aren't any better or worse.

The ONLY complaint I have about Firefox is that it takes a little longer to start up than IE as it is not part of the OS. Even then, I can live with that.


As far as DOSBox goes, grab the D-Fend application also. It is a Windows-based graphical front-end for DOSBox. It has a simple wizard that lets you pick the game's main EXE and the setup EXE (if available) and set all the basic directory of the app (which will set up a default mount for you), sound, and graphics options (but most of the time the defaults work).

I have set up about a dozen DOS games with DOSBox and D-Fend without any problems.

 

[The Kotex Kid]

As far as DOSBox goes, grab the D-Fend application also. It is a Windows-based graphical front-end for DOSBox. It has a simple wizard that lets you pick the game's main EXE and the setup EXE (if available) and set all the basic directory of the app (which will set up a default mount for you), sound, and graphics options (but most of the time the defaults work).

I have set up about a dozen DOS games with DOSBox and D-Fend without any problems.

This shit is all far too complicated and problematic. I can't see a good reason to download a ton of buggy programs to run antique games. I followed the 'instructions' that came with DOSBox to the letter and it still wont do what I tell it.

Aside from that, I still can't delete the MAIN.EXE program because it says it's being used. My taskmanager lists no such program.

 

[Rev. Layle]

that is why you get the D-Fend front end... but if you don't want to run the antique games, then don't... the only other option is to get Win98 or earlier, or have a dedicated DOS machine.

 

[Per]

This shit is all far too complicated and problematic. I can't see a good reason to download a ton of buggy programs to run antique games.

You mean other than getting to play the antique games? It's your choice.

Aside from that, I still can't delete the MAIN.EXE program because it says it's being used. My taskmanager lists no such program.

Open a DOS prompt and you should have no such trouble deleting it from there.

 

[The Kotex Kid]

Open a DOS prompt and you should have no such trouble deleting it from there.

I know ya don't owe me but I wish you'd let me ask one favor from you...

explain how to do this?

 

[Per]

In XP, choose Run from the Start tab, then type "command" to get a command line window. Use the cd command to locate whatever directory contains your desktop files, then "del main.exe". I can't guarantee it works but I've seen it work in similar situations. Type a command followed by "/?" for help.

 

[Sander]

If you have Windows XP that actually won't wok, for as far as I know. The DOS Prompt there is nothing but a shell for Windows. it isn't actually separate.
Nonetheless, you should go to your start menu, click run, and then type either 'cmd' or 'command' depending on which Windows version you have. One of the two will work, in any case.
Then you should navigate through the DOS prompt to the folder containing the undeletable file, using the commands 'dir' (to view the current directory's contents), 'cd %' (to navigate to sub-directory '%', where .. means 'one directory higher'), and finally, once you've located the file, 'del filename' to delete the file.

If this doesn't work, you could always try one of the special 'delete everything' programs out there. Let us know if you need one of those because this won't work.



PS: For someone with so little knowledge about computers (since you don't know how to open a DOS prompt ), you're rather quick to judge programs you've never used on bugginess. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me you're equating 'not made by a professional company' to buggy. But this is actually very far removed from the truth, in fact it's often the opposite.

 

[The Kotex Kid]

If you have Windows XP that actually won't wok, for as far as I know. The DOS Prompt there is nothing but a shell for Windows. it isn't actually separate.
Nonetheless, you should go to your start menu, click run, and then type either 'cmd' or 'command' depending on which Windows version you have. One of the two will work, in any case.
Then you should navigate through the DOS prompt to the folder containing the undeletable file, using the commands 'dir' (to view the current directory's contents), 'cd %' (to navigate to sub-directory '%', where .. means 'one directory higher'), and finally, once you've located the file, 'del filename' to delete the file.

If this doesn't work, you could always try one of the special 'delete everything' programs out there. Let us know if you need one of those because this won't work.



PS: For someone with so little knowledge about computers (since you don't know how to open a DOS prompt ), you're rather quick to judge programs you've never used on bugginess. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me you're equating 'not made by a professional company' to buggy. But this is actually very far removed from the truth, in fact it's often the opposite.

I know how to open a DOS prompt, Mr. Gates. I can also opn Calculator and Notepad! I r teh l337.

Sorry, but I haven't used DOS in over 10 years, so naturally I'm very rusty on its commands. Though I'm sure your extensive knowledge of an obsolete OS earns you a six figure income, King Cool

So rather than assume I know as much about DOS as you do, stop trying to look like an elitist C++ undergrad student and try helping me by not giving me instructions only someone with a better understanding of how DOS works could use.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Sander]

I know how to open a DOS prompt, Mr. Gates. Sorry, but I haven't used DOS in over 10 years, so naturally I'm very rusty on its commands. Though I'm sure your extensive knowledge of an obsolete OS earns you a six figure income, King Cool

Methinks you've been warned for an attitude before, Kotex, don't try me again, please. Especially because I was genuinely being helpful.

So rather than assume I know as much about DOS as you do,

Hey, I can't bloody well read your mind, so I can't know how much you know. And I didn't assume any such thing, for anyone with my level of knowledge this would've been painfully basic, really.

stop trying to look like an elitist C++ undergrad student

I'm not trying to look like one, I am a Computer Science student.

and try helping me by not giving me instructions only someone with a better understanding of how DOS works could use.

I apologise if it wasn't basic enough for you, but I need to assume some sort of basic knowledge to work with, otherwise I'll be explaining too much. I can't just magically know what you do and do not know. So please stuff the attitude and be grateful for the help you're getting.

So here's the more basic explanation:
If you're under Windows XP, the command prompt will open while in your desktop directory. In that case, typing 'del main.exe' followed by an enter should do it. Again: if that doesn't work, you'll need one of the 'delete anything' tools.

If you're not under Windows XP, open a DOS prompt, and the text before the blinking cursor should read something like 'C:\....'
This is telling you what your current 'position' within the file system of your computer is. Any commands you type will be executed using that position as a basis. So if you would type 'del main.exe' now, it would search for a file called 'main.exe' in that position, and if there is no such file there, it will return an error.
Now, you can use the 'dir' command to see what the contents of the directory (your position) are. This could give you an idea of where you need to navigate to to find your 'main.exe' to delete. (for the full path, you could use windows search)
Now, navigating in a DOS Prompt is done with the 'dir' command. You type 'dir directoryname' to navigate to a directory which is located within your current position. If you want to navigate 'back' (so to the directory in which your current position is located) you need to type 'dir ..'
Is that good enough for you?

 

[Per]

Sorry, but I haven't used DOS in over 10 years, so naturally I'm very rusty on its commands. Though I'm sure your extensive knowledge of an obsolete OS earns you a six figure income, King Cool

So rather than assume I know as much about DOS as you do, stop trying to look like an elitist C++ undergrad student and try helping me by not giving me instructions only someone with a better understanding of how DOS works could use.

Wow! Opening up a can of sarcasm on someone who's trying to help you despite earlier abrasiveness on your part. I know you said you take pride in being mean to those who displease you, but I don't actually care about that. Here's a strike for you. Unless I missed something, you are at two now.

 

[Silencer]

*sigh* just google for a little program called HijackThis which has a nice option called "Delete a file at startup" and it will take care of all your locked file deletion needs...

 

[The Kotex Kid]

Hey, I can't bloody well read your mind, so I can't know how much you know. And I didn't assume any such thing, for anyone with my level of knowledge this would've been painfully basic, really.

Well don't you suppose you should have just gone ahead with the barest of bones basic description on how to do it? I'm a mechanic on the F-16, so if you asked me how to service a main landing gear strut, I wouldn't assume you had a basic knowledge of AGE, the tools needed for the job, and the main landing gear strut itself.

See where I'm comming from? In any case, I do appreciate your assistance and the effort you put forth. Since I really didn't grasp how to navigate through my files using DOS commands I just moved the MAIN.EXE application onto my desktop and did del main.exe, like you said.

Seems to have done the trick.

 

[Sander]

Well don't you suppose you should have just gone ahead with the barest of bones basic description on how to do it? I'm a mechanic on the F-16, so if you asked me how to service a main landing gear strut, I wouldn't assume you had a basic knowledge of AGE, the tools needed for the job, and the main landing gear strut itself.

It's a mistake easily made, though, and by a lot of people. It's very hard for anyone with a lot of knowledge on a subject to explain anything from their line of expertise to someone with no or very little knowledge. I tried not to assume you had any knowledge at all, but apparently I'm not too good explaining it like that. I really don't think I could've made it any simpler. And there was also the issue of sensitivity, explaining stuff on a very basic level can be insulting to people.

 

[The Kotex Kid]

It's a mistake easily made, though, and by a lot of people. It's very hard for anyone with a lot of knowledge on a subject to explain anything from their line of expertise to someone with no or very little knowledge. I tried not to assume you had any knowledge at all, but apparently I'm not too good explaining it like that. I really don't think I could've made it any simpler. And there was also the issue of sensitivity, explaining stuff on a very basic level can be insulting to people.

I suppose. Though the smartest people are the ones who know what they don't know

 

[Maphusio]

*sigh* just google for a little program called HijackThis which has a nice option called "Delete a file at startup" and it will take care of all your locked file deletion needs...

LMFAO are you talking about that little spyware/malware program. YEah its a bitch I had it on one of my systems for some time. Had to remove that crap from my system manualy.

And Kotex Kid CHILL DUDE. Firefox rox. It out performes IE now it is true some websites are not yet firefox compatable. Thats why you keep IE handy.

If memory serves me correctly the new beta firefox that is to compete with Longhorns IE is out!

 

[Ratty Sr.]

It out performes IE now it is true some websites are not yet firefox compatable.

Translation: some websites were "developed" by second-rate self-taught buckweather morons, fail to comply with even the most basic W3C standards and thus won't display on a *real* browser like Firefox. "You must have Microsoft Internet Explorer to view this page" is a nicer way of saying "I'm too much of a lazy fuckwit to bother to fix my tag soup and learn to use HTML". As far as I'm concerned, a page that failed to show on a Mozilla browser wasn't worth visiting in the first place.

 

[Rev. Layle]

ratty: i'm discovering some sites will render in firefox and NOT in IE these days, so even mozilla is getting some "smarts" in their rendering