What are some of your unpopular opinions?

[ZooBis]

the talking king rat in klamath and his brother in gecko are serious?
anyway if we deleted those rats, the hubologists, the talking plant seymour, the intelligent scorpion, and delete the kung fo quest, make modoc less of theme park with the whole thing toilet thing and the deathclaw, one is enough, talking animals don't fit the series so i will put vault 13 into oblivion

I know the talking deathclaws seem to bother a lot of people, but I felt they were done in a way that makes sense and in a serious manner, due to them being experiments of the Enclave, so that never bothered me in the slightest. For me, the talking rats could have been experimented on similarly to the talking deathclaws. When I first played FO2 and encountered the Hubologist, I didn't even realize that they were inspired by Scientology, so they didn't feel out of place or come across as a joke, and it still doesn't for me. I feel like younger generations who will play this game eventually might not even recognize these outdated references and make nothing of them. My answers might sound like cope or denial since that's what Bethesda fans are known to do, but it's my reasons and instinct.

 

[PaxVenire]

are you playing 76 while reviewing it here?

I am revisiting it, yeah.

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

I don’t know if I’ve ever said this before and I’m not sure how upopular this is, but…

I think “War. War never changes.” is kind of a stupid tagline. To me it sounds like a preteen trying to be deep and philosophical. I can’t quite put my finger on why I think it sounds lame, something to do with the prose I guess, the way those words flow off Ron Perlman’s tongue. But I kind of cringe every time I hear it before/after the intro(s). The meat of the intros are usually pretty good though.

 

[PaxVenire]

I don’t know if I’ve ever said this before and I’m not sure how upopular this is, but…

I think “War. War never changes.” is kind of a stupid tagline. To me it sounds like a preteen trying to be deep and philosophical. I can’t quite put my finger on why I think it sounds lame, something to do with the prose I guess, the way those words flow off Ron Perlman’s tongue. But I kind of cringe every time I hear it before/after the intro(s). The meat of the intros are usually pretty good though.

I can see what you mean, I think its misuse is even more highlighted when Bethesda uses it, especially in Fallout 4 and 76 where there's not even a proper Fallout intro to back those words up and it's just inserted in a line of dialogue for no reason (like the FO4 character creation). But I do like the intent behind it originally, that humans are primal and tribalistic by nature and will kill each other for any small reason.

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

I can see what you mean, I think its misuse is even more highlighted when Bethesda uses it, especially in Fallout 4 and 76 where there's not even a proper Fallout intro to back those words up and it's just inserted in a line of dialogue for no reason (like the FO4 character creation). But I do like the intent behind it originally, that humans are primal and tribalistic by nature and will kill each other for any small reason.

Yeah, the meaning of it is fine, I just don’t like the way it’s written I guess. And yes, it’s way worse in Fallout 4. But the absolute worst use of it has to go to the tv show. Perhaps the longest pregnant pause (that wasn’t played for laughs) that I’ve ever heard.

 

[PaxVenire]

Bethesda choosing West Virginia, an otherwise completely forgettable state, to be the test-bed for many of Fallout's more experimental projects pre-war (completely automated facilities, experimental biomedical projects, space research) was really smart. It was smart in terms of game design because West Virginia would be a super boring map to explore otherwise. But also it was smart because logically the U.S. probably would pick a forgettable state to run rampant experiments on.

 

[Tenebris]

I know the talking deathclaws seem to bother a lot of people, but I felt they were done in a way that makes sense and in a serious manner, due to them being experiments of the Enclave, so that never bothered me in the slightest. For me, the talking rats could have been experimented on similarly to the talking deathclaws. When I first played FO2 and encountered the Hubologist, I didn't even realize that they were inspired by Scientology, so they didn't feel out of place or come across as a joke, and it still doesn't for me. I feel like younger generations who will play this game eventually might not even recognize these outdated references and make nothing of them. My answers might sound like cope or denial since that's what Bethesda fans are known to do, but it's my reasons and instinct.

The borrows were more well written and made sense but were deleted because tim felt that its content was not appropriate to fallout, mainly based on its style and feel in the game universe and not on its artistic merit, and this is my problem with talking deathclaw and rats, intelligent animals are more interesting when they less "human", the xenomorph from alien is highly intelligent but you don't see them go and talks to humans, they behave like animals even when they rest (alien 1979 ending).

Bethesda choosing West Virginia, an otherwise completely forgettable state, to be the test-bed for many of Fallout's more experimental projects pre-war (completely automated facilities, experimental biomedical projects, space research) was really smart. It was smart in terms of game design because West Virginia would be a super boring map to explore otherwise. But also it was smart because logically the U.S. probably would pick a forgettable state to run rampant experiments on.

doesn't west virginia have less federal land than most states? making experiment there kind of make sense, but you will think it have enough federal lands for it (i didn't play the game or look at the lore so i don't know if these tests are massive or something)

 

[PaxVenire]

doesn't west virginia have less federal land than most states? making experiment there kind of make sense, but you will think it have enough federal lands for it (i didn't play the game or look at the lore so i don't know if these tests are massive or something)

Not sure about this in real life, but even if that is the case I’m sure the government could just enact eminent domain where it needs to. That or they could just ignore laws under the guise of wartime emergency, after all this is the same universe where the government broadcast war crimes live on TV as peacekeeping propaganda.

 

[Tenebris]

The fev in the atmosphere is really stupid, i don't understand how people believe in it, from how it contradict the creation of the fev to the unrealistic process of turning into an airborne disease make no sense, how the virus survived the nukes? the heat inside and outside the glow? even if it survived it won't mutate because how west tek made it {The FEV is a megavirus, with a protein sheath reinforced by ionized hydrogen. It is therefore capable of absorbing neutrons without becoming radioactive.} from ZAX smg

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

The fev in the atmosphere is really stupid, i don't understand how people believe in it, from how it contradict the creation of the fev to the unrealistic process of turning into an airborne disease make no sense, how the virus survived the nukes? the heat inside and outside the glow? even if it survived it won't mutate because how west tek made it {The FEV is a megavirus, with a protein sheath reinforced by ionized hydrogen. It is therefore capable of absorbing neutrons without becoming radioactive.} from ZAX smg

Yeah you’re kinda right. I think it was a holdover from earlier ideas for the game (the version where nukes triggered the San Andreas fault and separated LA from the mainland), before they decided that radiation alone should cause mutations.

 

[Mr Fish]

The fev in the atmosphere is really stupid, i don't understand how people believe in it, from how it contradict the creation of the fev to the unrealistic process of turning into an airborne disease make no sense, how the virus survived the nukes? the heat inside and outside the glow? even if it survived it won't mutate because how west tek made it {The FEV is a megavirus, with a protein sheath reinforced by ionized hydrogen. It is therefore capable of absorbing neutrons without becoming radioactive.} from ZAX smg

Life uh, finds a way.

Did the Glow get nuked btw?
There is a big hole in the ground but it's been a while since I went over The Glow, did it explicitly get nuked?

Also keep in mind that Fallout plays a bit fast and loose with SCIENCE!, for example the insects would not be able to survive being the size they are at in Fallout.

I figured it was some kind of a mutagen that due to the enormously volatile nature of it (look at Mariposa and the super mutants) the blast at The Glow blew open something in there that caused it to swirl up in the storm and mix in with the nuclear winter to give the faintest little lick of FEV to anything that survived. How did it survive? I dunno, how do Super Mutants just balloon in mass without turning into bloated masses of cancer? SCIENCE! of course!

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

Did the Glow get nuked btw?
There is a big hole in the ground but it's been a while since I went over The Glow, did it explicitly get nuked?

I’m pretty sure it’s implied to have been directly nuked, given the hole in the ground. But the hole also doesn’t make any sense. Everything surrounding the hole is still intact. It looks more like it got hit by a space laser.

 

[Gizmojunk]

Bunker Buster

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

Bunker Buster

Yeah but a bunker buster will still explode once it penetrates the bunker. The explosion that destroyed the Glow seems to have been directed straight down. The walls surrounding the crater on each level are still intact, and the bottom level is virtually unscathed. We’d at least expect to see the level that the bomb actually exploded on to be completely annihilated.

 

[Gizmojunk]

The bomb should have been at the bottom, unexploded.

 

[broneslav]

Yeah but a bunker buster will still explode once it penetrates the bunker. The explosion that destroyed the Glow seems to have been directed straight down. The walls surrounding the crater on each level are still intact, and the bottom level is virtually unscathed. We’d at least expect to see the level that the bomb actually exploded on to be completely annihilated.

The first antibunker bomb with conventional non-nuclear explosives penetrated several levels. After it, a missile or bomb with a tactical nuclear charge was sent, which was supposed to hit this hole, but apparently did not quite hit, and the nuclear explosion was on the surface. However, the goal was achieved, radioactive contamination made the complex unsuitable for work.

The fev in the atmosphere is really stupid, i don't understand how people believe in it, from how it contradict the creation of the fev to the unrealistic process of turning into an airborne disease make no sense, how the virus survived the nukes? the heat inside and outside the glow? even if it survived it won't mutate because how west tek made it {The FEV is a megavirus, with a protein sheath reinforced by ionized hydrogen. It is therefore capable of absorbing neutrons without becoming radioactive.} from ZAX smg

If in a hypothetical virus created for the purpose of accelerating evolution, some of the carbon atoms are replaced with the isotope 14-C, and some of the hydrogen with tritium, then upon penetration into the nucleus of the host cell, irradiation of the host DNA from these radioactive isotopes will lead to accelerated mutation of the host DNA.