What is Myron’s backstory

ElloinmorninJ

ElloinmorninJ

Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
Where’s this kid from, how did he learn so much science, and how did a 15-16 year old kid get in touch with a mafia family
 
Decided to look up the wiki to brush up on my history with Myron and I read this part:
"In reality, Myron's achievement wasn't inventing Jet (which was created pre-War),[5]"

So I follow the [5] to read that it is from an entry on a computer from Fallout 4:
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Vault-Tec_Regional_HQ_terminal_entries

And since I don't acknowledge Fallout 3 or 4 as being canon it means I can't trust any of the wiki as I'd have to manually review every source of reference. Is there a wiki that doesn't take Fallout 3 and 4 into consideration? Either way, in contrast to Fallout 3 and 4 (seriously fuck those games) books still exist in the Fallout universe so he could just have been reading some chemistry books or whatever. When it comes to the creation of Jet for all we know he just found it a laugh to feed a brahmin a drug stash he'd found and after the brahmin shit and he had to take care of it he was like "Yo!" and the rest is history.

As to how he got in touch with a mafia family? Myron is a stick figure but boy is he confident. It would not surprise me at all if he just waltzed straight on in and started gloating about how much money he could make them. Really though, how does anyone get in touch with a mafia family? Either you know a guy who knows a guy or you need work and those guys seem well off so lets see if they're hiring.
 
Jet being pre war was a lot of bullshit Bethesda had inserted to explain why there is Jet on the East Coast.
And I agree, I wish there was a wiki in which only Fallout 1 and 2, though I do favor FNV and to a degree Tactics is the only canon.
Or alternative Fallout 1, 2, and Black Isle's Fallout 3.

Sadly I have great difficult keeping my thoughts straight as otherwise I would not have minded working on such a project.
 
No idea how to make a wiki but it would be relatively easy to just go around to the existing ones and simply steal whatever is accurate and leave behind anything that isn't. Could make a team effort and just slowly over time nab stuff and try to verify it. The question is, what is canon? Cause if a Van Buren project comes out and works then I might very well completely write off FNV as it has a lot of issues and I always liked Van Buren far more anyway.

But until that happens, is FNV canon? If so... Is OWB canon? The DLC where you have skeleton's walking around in spacesuits, being able to splice together a fully grown human and a robot into a robobrain through the magic of electricity, talking to your own brain and having an argument and lolz penisfingers?

The first question that would have to be answered among those working on it would be what is considered canon. On that note, since we're never getting anything proper canon ever again (cause there's no way Bethesda would do that) do we branch out and allow quality TC projects? Is Fallout 1.5 good enough and consistent enough with the rest to be worthy of being put on the list? Is Fallout Tactics worthy of being on the list despite the inconsistencies it has?

What would an accurate Fallout wiki be and who gets to dictate it?
 
These are just my takes on how I would do a fan canon Fallout wiki;

Primary canon would be Fallout 1 and 2.
I would consider FNV also canon though FO3 references should be ignored. I would also consider the DLCs canon even if some like OWB have a lot of ridiculous moments (FO2 also had a lot of pop culture and absurd elements)

Tactics being canon is a subject of debate.

At this point I would not consider any of the the fan creations as their content is contradicted here and there by the official games.
I do like Fallout Resurrection and it is probably a fan mod that is the closest to Fallout 1 and 2 but there are still a number of incompatibilities. The Hub was for example not destroyed in Fallout 1.

Fallout Yesterday. How much I like the idea of Black Isle's Fallout 3 being made as a fan project so we can finally play it I don't think it will ever be fully like Black Isle had planned back in the day, so yeah it is not canon.

Fallout Sonora. The same situation.

I would perhaps do a Lucasfilm approach to the canon though, that elements within these games that do not contradict Fallout 1, 2, and FNV should can be considered B or C tier canon unless an official game contradicts it. I know that is unlikely but I want the option to remain open.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
These are just my takes on how I would do a fan canon Fallout wiki;

Primary canon would be Fallout 1 and 2.
I would consider FNV also canon though FO3 references should be ignored. I would also consider the DLCs canon even if some like OWB have a lot of ridiculous moments (FO2 also had a lot of pop culture and absurd elements)

Tactics being canon is a subject of debate.

At this point I would not consider any of the the fan creations as their content is contradicted here and there by the official games.
I do like Fallout Resurrection and it is probably a fan mod that is the closest to Fallout 1 and 2 but there are still a number of incompatibilities. The Hub was for example not destroyed in Fallout 1.

Fallout Yesterday. How much I like the idea of Black Isle's Fallout 3 being made as a fan project so we can finally play it I don't think it will ever be fully like Black Isle had planned back in the day, so yeah it is not canon.

Fallout Sonora. The same situation.

I would perhaps do a Lucasfilm approach to the canon though, that elements within these games that do not contradict Fallout 1, 2, and FNV should can be considered B or C tier canon unless an official game contradicts it. I know that is unlikely but I want the option to remain open.
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We could include New Vegas and Van Buren at the same time and just come up with explanations for the inconsistencies. Same with some fan projects.

The biggest problems I can see with Van Buren and New Vegas contradicting is Hoover Dam, Joshua Graham, and Arcade Gannon.

The year that the NCR found the dam in cannon is one year after Kimball's election. So what if, the Legion kept growing and pushing the NCR further back. Kimball decides that the Hoover Dam should be converted into a military outpost and evicts all of the citizens a year after he's put in office. The Legion and BoS had both attacked the dam before in Van Buren, I don't see why we should retcon the brotherhood attacking the dam, but the Legion in cannon didn't even discover the dam until after the NCR showed up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the developers were thinking that the Legion shouldn't have attacked the dam yet because they were saving them for Fallout 4. So we could just pretend that doesn't happen in Van Buren. I think there was also going to be FEV in the lower levels of the dam... No. We don't need that. And lastly, for what I can remember, Arcade Gannon would've been a companion found in the dam. Arcade didn't have much of a bio in the design documents, just that he used to be Enclave, so I think we can just pretend Arcade wasn't there.

Joshua Graham was the Hanged Man, exiled from the Legion, I forget why though. What Joshua was somehow captured by an enemy who held an execution for Joshua's crimes. So the Hanged Man could exist, while still being Legion. After the end of the game, Joshua goes back to Caesar and resumes position as legate. I'm he'd be punished for his leap of absence, but at least it wouldn't contradict cannon.

There's also the whole, New Canaan/Jericho thing. I don't think Black Isle even knew what they were doing there, so we'll just say New Canaan wasn't destroyed yet. Along with any tribes in Van Buren that have a different fate in New Vegas.

For Fallout Resurrection, we could just ignore that the Hub wasn't destroyed, pretend nothing says that in the game.


Of course, most people aren't willing to just pretend some parts of a game aren't cannon, and especially if you're going to make a wiki it'd be pretty hard. Maybe the people making the wiki could have a council and the council decides which elements of which games are and aren't cannon.
 
Sorry but in this case you really have to choose between either a game that did get released and a game that did not get released but we did learn a lot about through the design documents.

I have to side with the game that actually got released.
 
Myron may have come from some community somewhere with a lot of science knowledge available, and he just ate it up when he was pretty much a kid. The prime suspects would be Vault City and NCR, but we know he's clearly not Vault City material. I think Myron coming down south from the wider NCR would be quite logical. Maybe the Boneyard or Dayglow.

Alternatively, he comes from somewhere we do not know. I don't think he is from the Southwest through, both Van Buren and New Vegas seem to posit the Four States Commonwealth as a generally quite backwards and primitive place compared to the West, with only a few technological enclaves.

So I would say that if Myron comes from offmap and not from the NCR, then he is probably from somewhere in the Pacific Northwest. Maybe Myron is from post-apoc Oregon or Washington.

Myron always came off to me as a child prodigy who had access to a lot of chemistry knowledge in his early age and pretty much ate it all up.
 
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