What's the best possible outcome you can get for the Mojave?

Depends on what you mean by everybody. I'll go on for the good of humanity..

Elijah and the courier siding together.

You have to admit while it is the most brutal ending it has the most likelihood of actually working out. Who will be able to fight back the cloud let alone holograms? Very few most likely who would only loose in the long-run. While not a utopia, more of a society forced to work or death by bomb collar, it would actually work. Death is a great reason to work and a majority of people accept that. Who wants to die for freedom when you have security?
 
Depends on what you mean by everybody. I'll go on for the good of humanity..

Elijah and the courier siding together.

You have to admit while it is the most brutal ending it has the most likelihood of actually working out. Who will be able to fight back the cloud let alone holograms? Very few most likely who would only loose in the long-run. While not a utopia, more of a society forced to work or death by bomb collar, it would actually work. Death is a great reason to work and a majority of people accept that. Who wants to die for freedom when you have security?

Too much a threat of falling out and civil war between the two, as Elijah might not let the Courier get in the way of his power.
 
People come under the impression that the Legion would restore Vegas into a spiritual successor to the Western Roman Empire, with the remains of Vegas urban regions becoming great buildings for the Legion, and that their savage and misogynistic nature would fade out over time. I believe they would just fail to maintain any semblance of civilisation, and the Mojave would eventually break down under their control, becoming nothing but a burning wasteland full of tribes and fiends whittling away at each other.

Caesar's ideas were good in theory, but in the long run and in practice, it's unrealistic to expect that the Legion, a collection of tribes ran by their basest instincts and a fanatical devotion, would be able to run a functional, autocratic, and powerful empire.

That's my problem with Caesar. The misogyny and anti-intellectualism of the Legion will fade out over time, but how long is that going to take? Maybe until everybody is wiped out in a second apocalypse? As far as anybody in the Legion knows, Caesar really meant it and his pronouncements are the Word of God, not the ramblings of a philosopher that the Legionaries don't read anyway.

It's very much a twist of irony that Caesar has heart problems which could be treated by Prewar medicine. There's no rational line distinguishing mashing herbs up to make a bitter concotion or a healing powder that leaves you hungover versus modern medicine except that the Legion Said So. That's the intellectual level that the Legion aspires to. "Self-reliance" is a lazy cop out answer when you need to clean water, plant crops and dispose of the sewage. It's great military rhetoric, but it's not enough when you need to build a civilization.
 
Too much a threat of falling out and civil war between the two, as Elijah might not let the Courier get in the way of his power.

Plus, Elijah was mostly doing it to get back at the NCR. He's a deranged old man who thinks it's a good idea to turn everything into a giant version of the Sierra Madre. To him, the Cloud is just a way to preserve Prewar shinies forever and ever in mint archival condition.

Does anybody thinks that's actually a good idea?
 
That's my problem with Caesar. The misogyny and anti-intellectualism of the Legion will fade out over time, but how long is that going to take? Maybe until everybody is wiped out in a second apocalypse? As far as anybody in the Legion knows, Caesar really meant it and his pronouncements are the Word of God, not the ramblings of a philosopher that the Legionaries don't read anyway.

It's very much a twist of irony that Caesar has heart problems which could be treated by Prewar medicine. There's no rational line distinguishing mashing herbs up to make a bitter concotion or a healing powder that leaves you hungover versus modern medicine except that the Legion Said So. That's the intellectual level that the Legion aspires to. "Self-reliance" is a lazy cop out answer when you need to clean water, plant crops and dispose of the sewage. It's great military rhetoric, but it's not enough when you need to build a civilization.

Cough, not really. It is enough to make a civilisation, as Genghis Khan showed. He's the best comparison to Caesar there is, as both had pretty barbaric troops, were heavily based on military goals and were both brutal, efficient and sexist. They both made a large efficient and strict empire. Both had the same problem that when the big chief dies, so does the Empire.
 
It's hard to try and say for sure because of the open nature of the endings, especially surrounding the Courier. Depending on how you view your courier's actions he could use Independent Vegas ending and all the technology and relationships they've formed to create a super prosperous nation with them leading (possibly eternally). Or you could have a flunkie courier who causes the Mojave to descend into to chaos as he injects more chems into his eyeballs.
 
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