What's you take on this?

Akudin

It Wandered In From the Wastes
I just heard a report from China, where consumers are supposedly organising via the Internet into huge blocks and pressuring the retailers into lowering prices on select consumer goods. Hypothetically speaking, why can't the Fallout Fans do the same and deal collectively with Bethesda about the the Fallout 3?

Personally, I think that everyone is pulling in their own direction and the economic power of the combined fans can not outweigh the marketing trends and sales projections at Bethesda. If there are 300,000 fallout fans out there. Do you think that this number is high enough to influence Bethesda?
 
Sorry, I haven't heard that one. I would think something like that would be big enough news all over the place, but neither Sina nor China daily have any inkling of the news.

Actually, today's China daily is full of more xenophobic crap spewed off by the CCP. The current fun and games from CD is that of Foreign Multinationals don't care about Chinese consumers. The big target are the Japanese, and the consumer products that some CCP members probably have stocks in the national counterpart.
 
Akudin said:
I just heard a report from China, where consumers are supposedly organising via the Internet into huge blocks and pressuring the retailers into lowering prices on select consumer goods. Hypothetically speaking, why can't the Fallout Fans do the same and deal collectively with Bethesda about the the Fallout 3?

Personally, I think that everyone is pulling in their own direction and the economic power of the combined fans can not outweigh the marketing trends and sales projections at Bethesda. If there are 300,000 fallout fans out there. Do you think that this number is high enough to influence Bethesda?
No. PC games have a fixed price, more or less, here. So unless the game community as a whole stands up, nothing is going to change.
 
I have to stand with Sander. There's just no way to mobilize the entire video game consumer base for lower prices because the majority of gamers are casual gamers and don't care about a $10 price cut in most games enough to support this cause.

Also, American companies are growing more and more fed up with the computer games industry because of the sheerly massive amount of pirating; there's a gradual industry-wide shift occurring towards console games.
 
There's also an industry-wide shift occurring towards making stupid dumbed down games...
 
Frankly, such actions make sense only in third world/developing countries like Poland or China where people have to work a lot more than on the West.

For example, to buy a 40 euro game, a person that earns a minimal wage in a country that has a minimal wage of 7 Euro per hour has to work just 6 hours to be able to buy it.
In country like Poland with minimal wage of about 1 Euro per hour, it's 40 hours.
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I think that it's even worser in China. That's why people in China allegedly put pressure on retailers. I was thinking about doing a similar thing in Poland in last months. I noticed that people in Poland talk about overpriced games/movies/music only when they talk about piracy :( .
 
Sorrow said:
Frankly, such actions make sense only in third world/developing countries like Poland or China where people have to work a lot more than on the West.
Go whine somewhere else :!: (i mean no offense, just kidding)

No way Poland is worse than Portugal in those matters.
minimum wage: ~350€
VAT for games: 21% :roll:

I really doubt poland is worse. Still, these things are not linear, so... :P

:EDIT:
Our minimum wage is 400€... Sorry about that.
 
It's 189.98€ in Poland :P .

My point is that high prices in poor countries practically make original games/movies/music unaccessible to most of people.
One may say that a price is a price, but in practise there's always someone's work behind the money that is paid for digital media.
While the price in money is the same, the real price - price in work is about 6+ times higher.
And western concerns wonder why there's such a high piracy in Eastern Europe :twisted: .

That's keeping me from getting a real job (i.e. outside my mother's business) - I can't imagine working for 40+ hours just to buy a single game :/ .
 
That's true, here in Brazi the minimum payment is US$162,00 month, imagine a person working 1 month to buy a game, even rich people here buy fake games wich costs US$4,63 while the original costs US$46,30.
It worths 10 times less with a good quality.
Thats really hard to change
 
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