Where did the deathclaws, floaters, and centaurs come from?

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enclave assassin

First time out of the vault
We all know how the ghouls got their undead appearances. What I don't get is who created the deathclaws, floaters, and centuars? The last two creatures were never explained in exact details. Is it the radiation from nuclear warhead that caused dramatic mutation in grizzly bears, worms, and horses? Were they created by some mad scientists or the Master from Fallout 1? How did the Deathclaws got intelligent to be able to communicate in human tongue? Can anyone shed some light?
 
You might wanna check out the "Fallout-bible" in the download section for deathclaw. As for floaters and centuars, no idea. :oops:
 
It helps to have played Fallout 1.

DeathClaws most likely came from The Glow, as part of the FEV experiment, given both what has been said about it and what can be found in both Fo1 and Fo2 - there really isn't anything said for certain in Fo1, and Fo2 presents many contradictions.

One of the more curious points is that Jackson's Chameleons were never listed as a test subject at West Tech, though it is the only thing to explain how they got that large, that hostile, and to develop a pack structure, which would infer higher intelligence. As the Radscorpions were just larger scoprions due to radiation, so might the DeathClaws be similarly altered - until you look at the fact that introduction of FEV into anything with significant genetic damage (radiation mutation) leads to inevitable death as the virus tries to overhaul all of the body's organs at once. So the Enclave introducing FEV into DeathClaws to make them talk is an illogical point in itself, because further FEV wouldn't do shit (once infected fully with the FEV, the host now has a quad helix DNA structure, leading to no further infection from virii - as was the FEV's intent in the Pan-Immunity Virion Project), and FEV on top of radiation damage, especially on the genetic level, means death.

It is quite possible that the DeathClaws were some of the critters that Harold mentioned as being critters that were mutated near the base, as they are mostly found in both games around the Military Base (though not so much in Fo1, I think), along the mountain line of caves down towards the Boneyards (which they might have been a pioneering family group).

As for the floaters and centaurs, well, it makes sense that you'd want a FP Fallout without having a clue about the background of the game, if you can't even recognize the remains of The Master's army. In fact, the encounters in Fo2 state that. In Fo1, certain map locations have them roaming around, and one location in particular has centaurs and floaters all over. It's pretty hard to miss given it is one of the locations needed to complete to finish the game.
 
Are the centaurs and floaters just animals that were dipped, though? I'm honestly unclear on that point, though I recognized that they were used as part of the Master's army.
 
they were the Master's pets :twisted:

It's true, some of the centaurs have in their description "The Master's pet" or something similar.
 
Lazarus Plus said:
Are the centaurs and floaters just animals that were dipped, though? I'm honestly unclear on that point, though I recognized that they were used as part of the Master's army.
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Not just dipped, but they were engineered by The Master's scientists, the same people responsible for the psychic experiments to futher his own mental abilities and that of his troops, so he could further control the Unity as they take over the wasteland. Basement of the Cathedral, folks. :D

Also, Richard Grey's (The Master) own journal (Holodisk) has his experiments with a dog and a rat, which fused when dipped together, as it also explains how he joined together with a mix of other people to form The Master.

So I would then have to guess that the centaurs and floaters are made up from whatever animals could be found in the post-nuclear wasteland.
 
While this is really only a theory question, I think it fits. What the Hell did a floater start as? There are recognizable parts in the centaurs, but floaters are so just our of left field that you have to wonder just *What* they threw into the vats to get one of those out!
 
Lord 342 said:
While this is really only a theory question, I think it fits. What the Hell did a floater start as? There are recognizable parts in the centaurs, but floaters are so just our of left field that you have to wonder just *What* they threw into the vats to get one of those out!
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Floaters... my guess is earthworm + venus fly trap + FEV(caz its 'mouth' looks like venus fly trap to me. :lol: )
 
Well, maybe it's like a combination of a snake (or an earthworm for that matter) with a Spore Plant. Because if they used animals they found in the wastes, then these animals had probably already gained enough radiation to be mutated already. So you're force mutating mutated things... if you get what I mean...
 
Roshambo said:
Lazarus Plus said:
Are the centaurs and floaters just animals that were dipped, though? I'm honestly unclear on that point, though I recognized that they were used as part of the Master's army.
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Not just dipped, but they were engineered by The Master's scientists, the same people responsible for the psychic experiments to futher his own mental abilities and that of his troops, so he could further control the Unity as they take over the wasteland. Basement of the Cathedral, folks. :D

Also, Richard Grey's (The Master) own journal (Holodisk) has his experiments with a dog and a rat, which fused when dipped together, as it also explains how he joined together with a mix of other people to form The Master.

So I would then have to guess that the centaurs and floaters are made up from whatever animals could be found in the post-nuclear wasteland.
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Let's hope they can't reproduce naturally then...

Ugh.
 
Where did the floaters, and centaurs come from?
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Well, the logical explanation would be that they are the animal parts of the commonality(master). But there is no a real and logical answer to the tenth thousand super mutant, that the master summons when the battle continues under the church, or their weapons, but hell it's just a game, and in one anything is possible. 8)
 
Deathclaw's intellegince were enhanced with geneticaly alter'd FEV, and the fallout bible has a secton for floaters (I think, it had somewhat of an explanation for centaurs) Anyways, centaurs were experiments that the master did, with humans and dogs. Floaters are flatworms or some such crappy animal forced to abnormal size due to radiation, fev and the programers/artists imagination.
 
Apart from the fact that anything severely radiated will basically decompose if attempted to be mutated through FEV.
 
What about the majority of super mutants? They are steaming idiots because they were heavily radiated when they were dipped. And they still lived for over one hundred years.
 
Argonnot said:
What about the majority of super mutants? They are steaming idiots because they were heavily radiated when they were dipped. And they still lived for over one hundred years.
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I think that was supposed to be one of the "special cases" with FEV and radiation, but I honestly can't remember.
 
Radiation decreases the chance of successful mutation through FEV.

The super mutants are dumb because they were wasteland dwellers rather than vault dwellers. If you get yourself dipped, you'll become a smarter super mutant (probably a Nightkin or something).

I guess that ghouls or glowing ones would die if they were dipped. Radiation has a negative impact on the mutation -- what the differences between the versions of FEV (IIRC there are at least three different versions of FEV in the Fallout universe) are, I don't know.
 
Lazarus Plus said:
I'm fairly certain that this forum would not exist if it were "just a game" to us. Really.
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It is just a game, but a good game,...

And as for the different versions of FEV, the few first patches were sayid to increase animal intelligence, but the later patches that were tested on humans, the intelligence increase was not found :arrow: the super mutants are from the latest patch :?: ...
and the intelligence degrease is do to the increase of mass while the brain remains the same size.(just guessing)
 
Jarno Mikkola said:
and the intelligence degrease is do to the increase of mass while the brain remains the same size.(just guessing)
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nah, it has been proven that the size of the brain does not necessarily have anything to do with intellegence. Not meaning that a rat-sized brain can be as smart as a human sized brain.
I'm fairly sure that I gathered somewhere in Fallout that the FEV sometimes had a side-effect that made the super mutants dumb.
 
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