CT Phipps
Carbon Dated and Proud
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It's annoying, really.
You can't really complain about Fallout 4 on these forums as a Fallout 3 fan because the games are hated equally by the forum goers. So, you just have to suck it up and feel like the guy who loves The Force Awakens but HATES the Last Jedi.
Which is also true for me.
But Fallout 4 is weird because I actually LIKE Bethesda. At least, I like some of their games and Fallout 3 is easily my favorite of the franchise.
Yet, Fallout 4 pisses all over its lore.
(hears chorus of laughter)
Laugh it up, fuzzball.
Seriously, this game goes out of its way to make any and all good will that people from Fallout 3's gamer base feel unwelcome and snubbed by the new game.
What do I mean?
The Eastern Brotherhood of Steel was LIKED by a good portion of the fandom. Yes, they were the heroic idealistic branch of a group of supreme misanthropic assholes but they were beloved characters to some of us. Elder Lyons, Sarah Lyons, Paladin Cross, and the good folk at the Capital Wasteland. Many a post on the old Bethesda forums speculated on them building an Empire which would one day rival NCR. The Good Karma Lone Wanderers of the universe put a SHIT TON of effort into bringing the Capital Wasteland back from the brink.
It was OUR wasteland, dammit, and we reclaimed it from radioactive hell to livable land.
What does Fallout 3 do?
CRAPS ALL OVER IT.
List of Complaints
* Elder Lyons is dead. Fine, he was an old man.
* Sarah Lyons is dead, which sucks because she was the fantasy girlfriend of many a players' RP.
* The Lone Wanderer is NOT EVEN MENTIONED. Which is ridiculous since Fallout is pretty damn good about mentioning previous protagonists. The Vault Dweller was even named a saint by the people of NCR and became a legendary tribal founder.
Wouldn't he or she have something to say about the BOS' face heel turn?
* The East Coast Brotherhood of Steel becomes a group of racist bad guys. Well, the racism was always there but it's terrible that all the work you put in to put them in charge of the bad guys is wasted.
* Arthur Maxon is obsessed with stupid things. You could forgive him if he's a conqueror trying to build a new environment but he's not. He's not annexing the Commonwealth, he's just here to destroy the Institute. The Capital Wasteland isn't annexed either as there's no sign he's the government of it.
* The Capital Wasteland is still a crappy place as there's Super Mutant growing pools, ghouls, and worse there with everyone complaining about what a chaotic hellhole it is. HOW? How the hell have they not gotten this under control?
* The nuclear generator of Rivet City is taken and that pretty much destroys that settlement.
* No mention of the Pitt.
It's enormously disrespectful to the previous game to throw in nothing but shade on the game people played and liekd enough to get THIS game made.
You can't really complain about Fallout 4 on these forums as a Fallout 3 fan because the games are hated equally by the forum goers. So, you just have to suck it up and feel like the guy who loves The Force Awakens but HATES the Last Jedi.
Which is also true for me.
But Fallout 4 is weird because I actually LIKE Bethesda. At least, I like some of their games and Fallout 3 is easily my favorite of the franchise.
Yet, Fallout 4 pisses all over its lore.
(hears chorus of laughter)
Laugh it up, fuzzball.
Seriously, this game goes out of its way to make any and all good will that people from Fallout 3's gamer base feel unwelcome and snubbed by the new game.
What do I mean?
The Eastern Brotherhood of Steel was LIKED by a good portion of the fandom. Yes, they were the heroic idealistic branch of a group of supreme misanthropic assholes but they were beloved characters to some of us. Elder Lyons, Sarah Lyons, Paladin Cross, and the good folk at the Capital Wasteland. Many a post on the old Bethesda forums speculated on them building an Empire which would one day rival NCR. The Good Karma Lone Wanderers of the universe put a SHIT TON of effort into bringing the Capital Wasteland back from the brink.
It was OUR wasteland, dammit, and we reclaimed it from radioactive hell to livable land.
What does Fallout 3 do?
CRAPS ALL OVER IT.
List of Complaints
* Elder Lyons is dead. Fine, he was an old man.
* Sarah Lyons is dead, which sucks because she was the fantasy girlfriend of many a players' RP.
* The Lone Wanderer is NOT EVEN MENTIONED. Which is ridiculous since Fallout is pretty damn good about mentioning previous protagonists. The Vault Dweller was even named a saint by the people of NCR and became a legendary tribal founder.
Wouldn't he or she have something to say about the BOS' face heel turn?
* The East Coast Brotherhood of Steel becomes a group of racist bad guys. Well, the racism was always there but it's terrible that all the work you put in to put them in charge of the bad guys is wasted.
* Arthur Maxon is obsessed with stupid things. You could forgive him if he's a conqueror trying to build a new environment but he's not. He's not annexing the Commonwealth, he's just here to destroy the Institute. The Capital Wasteland isn't annexed either as there's no sign he's the government of it.
* The Capital Wasteland is still a crappy place as there's Super Mutant growing pools, ghouls, and worse there with everyone complaining about what a chaotic hellhole it is. HOW? How the hell have they not gotten this under control?
* The nuclear generator of Rivet City is taken and that pretty much destroys that settlement.
* No mention of the Pitt.
It's enormously disrespectful to the previous game to throw in nothing but shade on the game people played and liekd enough to get THIS game made.