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http://www.reuters.ch/newsArticle.jhtml?ty...storyID=5387821

UN uncovers banned weapons
By Edith M. Lederer
June 10, 2004

UN weapons experts have found 20 engines used in Iraq's banned Al Samoud 2 missiles in a scrapyard in Jordan along with other equipment which could be used to produce weapons of mass destruction, the acting chief UUN inspector said.

DEMETRIUS Perricos disclosed the discovery by the experts who just returned from Jordan in a closed-door briefing Wednesday to the UN Security Council. The text was obtained by The Associated Press.

The UN team was following up on an earlier discovery of a similar engine in a scrapyard in the Dutch port of Rotterdam, and Perricos said a request has been made to Turkey which has also received scrap metal from Iraq.

In his briefing to the Security Council, Mr Perricos said UN inspectors do not know how much material that they had monitored because of possible dual use in legitimate civilian activities and banned weapons production has been removed from Iraq.

UN inspectors were pulled out of Iraq just before the war began in March 2003, and the United States has refused to allow them to return, instead deploying its own teams to search for weapons of mass destruction. Perricos suggested that the interim Iraqi government, which will assume sovereignty when the U.S. and British occupation of the country ends on June 30, may want to reconsider "the whole policy for the continued export of metal scrap" which apparently started in mid-2003 and is regulated by the U.S.-led coalition.

"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks associated with dual-use material and equipment being transferred to unknown destinations, thereby also rendering the task of the disarmament of Iraq and its eventual confirmation, more difficult," Mr Perricos said.

"The only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," he said, according to the text of his briefing.

Afterward, he told reporters that up to a thousand tons of scrap metal was leaving Iraq every day.

"It's being exported. It's being traded out, and there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal," he said.

During last week's visit to Jordan, Mr Perricos told the council that U.N. experts visited "relevant scrapyards" with the full cooperation of Jordanian authorities and discovered 20 SA-2 missile engines.

The UN team also discovered some processing equipment with UN. tags - which show it was being monitored - including chemical reactors, heat exchangers, and a solid propellant mixer bowl to make missile fuel, he said.

It also discovered "a large number of other processing equipment without tags, in very good condition."

"hese visits provide just a snapshot of the whole picture since the scrap metal has a short residence time and is re-exported to various countries," Mr ricos told the council.

In its quarterly report to the council on Monday, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission which Mr Perricos heads, said a number of sites in Iraq known to have contained equipment and material that could be used to produce banned weapons and long-range missiles have been cleaned out or destroyed.

The inspectors said they didn't know whether the items, which had been monitored by the United Nations, were at the sites during the US-led war in Iraq.

The commission, known as UNMOVIC, said it was possible some material was taken by looters and sold as scrap.

UNMOVIC said its experts and a team from the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN body responsible for dismantling Iraq's nuclear program, were jointly investigating items from Iraq discovered in a scrapyard in Rotterdam.

The Associated Press
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"Equipment" and "scrap metals" that "could be used to make weapons of mass destruction" hardly equals "OMG BUSH FOUND THE WMDS! PRAISE GAWD!"
 
Malkavian said:
"Equipment" and "scrap metals" that "could be used to make weapons of mass destruction" hardly equals "OMG BUSH FOUND THE WMDS! PRAISE GAWD!"
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"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks associated with dual-use material and equipment being transferred to unknown destinations, thereby also rendering the task of the disarmament of Iraq and its eventual confirmation, more difficult," Mr Perricos said.
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Does it say anywhere how old they are? Or when they were exported to Jordan?
THere has been a large amount of scrap metal taken out of Iraq recently, but they could have been removed earlier (ie: before or just after the banning of these rockets).
This bit struck me as odd:
The U.N. team was following up on an earlier discovery of a similar Al Samoud 2 engine in a scrapyard in the Dutch port of Rotterdam
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Seems a long way to transport scrap.
 
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after



SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.

The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.

UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.

"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."

"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.

The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters – the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.

"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."

The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.

"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."

UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.

In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country.
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Constipated relax a bit, take a step back, read carefully several sources telling the story, from several locations in the world. Don`t get overexcited yet , take your time in analysing the info. The keywords here are Al Samoud 2 missiles, know their story.
 
I predicted this.

Just check Foxnews.com, and nothing about WMD's were said. That right there should be more than enough to let anyone know there aren't any found yet. Damn it CC, you got me all excited.
 
Is this the missiles that went maybe ten miles longer than they were allowed to? Great WMDs.
 
Surface to Air missiles? Just engines? Possible duel- use.

It is widely know that Saddam had a weapons of mass destruction program that he could begin once sanctions were lifted. He had the scientists, and in the past he had the weapons.

But this still seems a bit skimpy. THe difference between having the capacity to have a program and having a program.

Now WMD program in North Korea... that's another story.
 
Oh, for chrissake, it's not even the damn point.

Come on.

Does anybody *really* believe in the whole WMD excuse?
 
Malkavian said:
Woozy said:
Does anybody *really* believe in the whole WMD excuse?
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*points at CC*
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Aye, one of the last ones, too. I mean, even the Bush administration gave up and switched to "we freed Iraqi from da evil opressors, we didn't nevah go there for no WMDs no nevah", but CC seems to still think they're going with the DubyahMDs.

http://www.goats.com/archive/040611.html

Paladin Solo said:
Just check Foxnews.com, and nothing about WMD's were said. That right there should be more than enough to let anyone know there aren't any found yet
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What the hell is wrong with your brain, boy? One newssource doesn't mention a subject, so IT DIDN'T HAPPEN?! Are you insane?!
 
Paladin Solo said:
IT'S FOX FRICKING NEWS! HELLO!
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If Fox News says France reinstated their monarchy by placing the Dutch Queen on their throne, while Russia turned communist again and Japan merged with China into one big ChinaJapanese state...oh and Canada joined the US, would it be true?

Fox News is Fox News, it ain't perfect.

Never, EVER, depend on one information source only. That's retarded. I personally listen to at least two different news broadcasts each day, as wel as reading two papers and then scrolling over the 'net for more, before trusting anything

Paladin Solo said:
PS: Get rid of that sig infidel! LALALALALALALALAALALALA!
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Funniest...concept...evah
 
It's Fox News man. If they don't report something good about America, then you KNOW it's not true if someone else says so. Like for instance, what CCR said about WMD's. Fox didn't even write it in small print anywhere on their site about anything about WMD's being found. So then It MUST be true that none were found. I didn't mean that they were the most trustable news source around.
 
Kharn said:
Paladin Solo said:
PS: Get rid of that sig infidel! LALALALALALALALAALALALA!
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Funniest...concept...evah
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hmm.... I'm going to send this comic to Jack Chick. Beware. Who visits the following link is condemned to face the stupidity of mankind. There is no way back. One time exposed to the content of this site can cause severe brain damage.

http://www.chick.com


It's not permanent if you visit the following site.
http://www.chickcomics.com/
 
OMG Jakc Chick LOOOOLLL!!!11

You are aware that there was quite a fussy thread about Chick and his comics a few months ago?
 
Does Rupert Murdoch still own the majority of Fox (damn traitor Aussie)?

Better luck next time for WMDs, there is still time left to plant some. :twisted: I

I predict that will happen just about election time. Playing russian roulet with six bullets. Just gotta' hope that one's a dud.......
 
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