ConstipatedCraprunner said:
Jordania (or Trans-Jordania, whatever) didn't exist until Abdullah founded it either.
No, it's a distinct dialect of Arabic and is culturally independant from both the Arab continent and Egytp.
Dialect? Are languages the criteria for the founding of nations these days?
And you tell that to a Belgian... Tsss...
No really: if you say the Palestinians don't have a right to their own country because they had never had a country in the (distant) past, then Jordania shouldn't exist either. Then it should either be a part of the Abbesidan Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Roman Empire, the Eastern Roman Empire, the Hashemite "Empire", the British Empire or what not. Because you see, there never was a "Jordania". The British created it in 1921, when they made Abdullah amir of what would be Trans-Jordania.
Basically, the Palestinians have a right to their own nation just as much as the "Jordanians" do.
CCR said:
and the majority of the population came in when the Isrealis made a useless peice of desert into an industrialized, modern democracy, something that does'nt even exsist in the traditional Arab world.
All the
Jewish population came in, yes. All the Arabs were thrown out. I'd thought you'd heard of the "Palestinian refugee problem" by now...
Plus, what they turned in to what you call a "modern industrialised economy" (as if they would survive withouth American aid), is not built on the "useless desert part". No, when back in the first years of the twentieth centrury the zionists started coming to Palestinia, it was the furtile, usefull land around the Jordan and along the coast they bought. They left all the "useless desert" parts for the Palestinians.
Never learnt the basic principles of colonisation, have you?