Your opinion of most of the people in real life?

[Empty09]

What do you think of the people around you? Do you have a high tolerance or do you hate everyone?
In my experience, I’ve encountered people in all shapes and colors. Most of them were boring or they were just too stupid to hang out with for a long period of time.
Long ago, I would rather stay away from those uninteresting, lame morons.
But today it’s like 90% of my city and/or country is full of those people.
Anywhere you look, they have no vision of the things to come, their general knowledge is a disaster which dumbs down conversations to trivial stuff. I’m not even going to mention musical taste or anything of that kind. They simply live and think in a box, all toghether, sometimes it amazes me how can they live like this and be happy.

But at some point in my life, I thought that why shouldn’t I play this game smarter?
So I just show fake respect and sound friendly to everyone but hate their guts, keep it inside my head. This thing has been bugging me for some time, but last week, as I just joined highschool I was suprised again by the incredible behaviour and knowledge of those ... limited folks.

English class was starting and after the teacher entered the class, she started to speak to us, all in english. For a few minutes I was stunned with amazement when I’ve noticed no one understands what she says except one girl, one girl that no one liked from the very beggining of highschool.
She had a coherent conversation with the teacher about her holidays and about her first impressions with the highschool while everyone around me from the team of smart-asses started to throw insults at her like: retard, nerd and all that just for her being smarter and knowing much more information and knowledge than them.
The thing is I didn’t choose any side to team with, I just had kept quiet when my deskmate, for example, insulted her and waited for my response.

I always admired those kind of people that gain the hate of others just by simply outsmarting them.
In conclusion, I hate the people that form the majority, I hate them, they just kill the meaning of progress, and they just keep on booing the ones that stand higher on the ladder.

As for my class performance that day, I had kept on being silent for the rest of the class.
Waiting to strike from the dark when the first test paper will be handed out, heh.
Don’t know who’s going to get the highest grade, but I’m going to be above the third spot anyway.
Not because I’m that good, but because they’re that bad I guess.

So basically I keep opinions to myself, laugh at their stupid jokes, befriend everyone and make use of the advantages I get out of that.

I guess the Dark Knight quote fits for me: „You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” ..or you either end up being pointed at like that girl in the story, pointed at by the dumb but numerous flock or you join them and keep opinions to self.
I suppose the masses just wash away the realist, open-minded folks.


So what’s your idea of the other people or the majority of people you meet?
Do you like the society you live in?

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[memetics]

I often feel the same way, mostly because people are generally motivated by emotions and make statements that indicate an irrational thinking process. I don't know how the majority of people manage to survive, let alone thrive, with such poor decision-making apparatus.

But then again, that's evolution for ya. Guess I'm a bit of a mutant. Ironically, most NMA people have the same mutation (tending toward the rational rather than the irrational).

Most days, though, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and get beneath the surface, and sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised by them.

-M

 

[Puokki]

Go and play Modern Warfare 2 public multiplayer for a couple of hours and you will SURELY start to hate humanity. I can tell, I've had experience. Once the most extreme hating feelings vanish, you will suffer from chronic pessimism, as you understand that these kids are the future of this planet.

 

[Verevoof]

99% of humans I can't stand being around. It's a combination of many things, some of what you're saying.

What you're describing is the classic case of crowd mentality. People go with the flow, whatever is established as the "norm." Most people act a certain way because everyone else acts that way. This behavior is instinctual. Members of a group survive longer than those that stray off on their own.

But one must remember, you are dealing with high school students. Not really a mature crowd. Though it is true to some extent that people generally are the same as they were in high school when they are adults, many do gain maturity.

I say you should be yourself, who cares what they think. There are other people who see the way you do, but are too afraid to be the odd man out in a crowd.

Do try to find things in life that make you happy, try to find the good in people. I have been harboring and nurturing a feeling of hate towards people for years, brooding alone on such a topic. If these feelings are not kept in check, well, you certainly are not better off.

Just be yourself and forget about these people you feel contempt towards. But, remember, you must keep a balance; no one likes it when someone thinks they are better than everyone else. There are times when it is best to just keep it to yourself, no need to be abrasive. But to alter your personality to fit theirs, to be around such a crowd for so long trying to fit in, or whatever, well, how do you think that personality you dislike came to be so prevalent? When you pretend to be something else, eventually you will truly become that something else.

 

[SkuLL]

We have no idea what we're doing. No one's in charge.

That can be either quite uplifting or immensely depressing.

 

[Alphadrop]

As a Satanist, I tend to understand that most people are selfish and concerned with themselves and those close to them above all else. This is perfectly natural and something that I subscribe to wholeheartedly.

What's satanism got to do with that? I'm a socialist humanist and feel that way too.

 

[Empty09]

I often feel the same way, mostly because people are generally motivated by emotions and make statements that indicate an irrational thinking process. I don't know how the majority of people manage to survive, let alone thrive, with such poor decision-making apparatus.

Most days, though, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and get beneath the surface, and sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised by them.

-M

That's the matter I'm most bothered by, and to quote you, how did this 'group' survive and thrive.

But then again, that's evolution for ya. Guess I'm a bit of a mutant. Ironically, most NMA people have the same mutation (tending toward the rational rather than the irrational).

Yes heh, I think that's the main reason I've been lurking around this forum since I don't really play any fallout anyway, they are a clever bunch.

Go and play Modern Warfare 2 public multiplayer for a couple of hours and you will SURELY start to hate humanity. I can tell, I've had experience. Once the most extreme hating feelings vanish, you will suffer from chronic pessimism, as you understand that these kids are the future of this planet.

Yes, I know, I feel the same here. I mentioned in the first post how those around me seem to have no "vision of things to come".
There's no doubt that (in my country at least) we have any more hope for a better future since the present is already fucked how can we dream about better times when everyone around us is dumber than the generations before.

99% of humans I can't stand being around. It's a combination of many things, some of what you're saying.

What you're describing is the classic case of crowd mentality. People go with the flow, whatever is established as the "norm." Most people act a certain way because everyone else acts that way. This behavior is instinctual. Members of a group survive longer than those that stray off on their own.

I'm sick and tired of the crowd mentality and I'm so young god dammit .

But one must remember, you are dealing with high school students. Not really a mature crowd. Though it is true to some extent that people generally are the same as they were in high school when they are adults, many do gain maturity.

That's so true, they stay the same.
And yes, maybe I expect more than those guys can do but when I was in...elementary school ( Is it called that way?)..anyway from 5th grade to the 8th and especially the last two years, I had a more balanced crowd, I had enough "bright" people to keep around myself, enough guys and gals to keep on my side, didn't have to keep up this "subterfuge" state I'm going to these days by allying myself with those whose name must not be spoken.

I say you should be yourself, who cares what they think. There are other people who see the way you do, but are too afraid to be the odd man out in a crowd.

That's not my concern, I'm all..popular and shit, I'm also liked and befriended by everyone, but my problem is that all this is just fake, I don't give a fuck about them so I lie to them and tell them I agree with them, their taste, their prejudice of other people and don't point out how bad their jokes can be sometimes. Some of them have no good humor and I'm talking about people in general not only my class mates.

Do try to find things in life that make you happy, try to find the good in people. I have been harboring and nurturing a feeling of hate towards people for years, brooding alone on such a topic. If these feelings are not kept in check, well, you certainly are not better off.

My goal in life is to become a pilot so I can "fly" to Germany. ;]
Being rich and hanging with the rich can't be that bad, even if they are still as stupid as most of the people, the stupid but poor class won't have shit on me.
Just joking .

Just be yourself and forget about these people you feel contempt towards. But, remember, you must keep a balance; no one likes it when someone thinks they are better than everyone else. There are times when it is best to just keep it to yourself, no need to be abrasive. But to alter your personality to fit theirs, to be around such a crowd for so long trying to fit in, or whatever, well, how do you think that personality you dislike came to be so prevalent? When you pretend to be something else, eventually you will truly become that something else.

"Best to just keep it to yourself" ? Yep that's me.
And I'm not really trying to fit in anywhere, I'd just want more interesting people around me that have something good to say so I won't have to give them a fake smile.

As a Satanist, I tend to understand that most people are selfish and concerned with themselves and those close to them above all else. This is perfectly natural and something that I subscribe to wholeheartedly.

Problems begin to arise when that self-concern causes conflict with others. Stupidity, fighting, discrimination, political action, etc. are all products of people trying to impress their own wills upon situations which are contrary to their own, and oftentimes the result is violence of some sort.

My policy is: live good, live high, but don't mess with anyone in order to obstruct their way of living.
If there would be no racism and people will put peace before anything else, this world would be better, way better.
That's impossible anyway, too much to ask for. Who has time to teach someone who doesn't know what you do when there are money to be made, hate to show, exploiting to be made.

 

[Loxley]

I am in general positive to people, but I am affected by annoying stereotypes and media. Something that annoys me a great deal when I notice it.

 

[monsharen]

While you do sound like an engaging young man Empty09, it also sounds like you have some social issues yourself. You think you're better than everyone else, yet "try" to sink to their level? Judging from your text it wouldn't surprise me if you eventually start hearing voices and go ape nuts with guns on people. Without having met you in real life this shit rings the psychopath bell for me. Don't bury stuff inside you, it will only come back to haunt you later on. With guns.

 

[Public]

In short

Boring and simple.

 

[Verevoof]

While you do sound like an engaging young man Empty09, it also sounds like you have some social issues yourself. You think you're better than everyone else, yet "try" to sink to their level? Judging from your text it wouldn't surprise me if you eventually start hearing voices and go ape nuts with guns on people. Without having met you in real life this shit rings the psychopath bell for me. Don't bury stuff inside you, it will only come back to haunt you later on. With guns.

Now, now, I don't think Empty09 is psychotic or anything. After reading this thread so far, he just seems like a fake asshole. Sorry if that sounds harsh. I mean, I can't stand people, but I don't have a superiority complex, I don't think I'm better than others, and I don't try to humor people I deem as lesser than me (which I don't really deem others lesser than me). You're really pretentious, fake, and other words I don't feel like digging out. You sound like you have one of the worst personalities out there, no different from those who piss you off, perhaps even worse. Seriously, you have no room to judge others.

 

[ManWithNoName]

I've got nothing wrong with smart people. But I hate people who think there smart. And I don't like smart people with no commonsence. There were these two girls in my English, and history class last year and they both thought they were really clever and had debates with each other and they were so stupied. Heres and example: Amelia Earhart proved African Americans could fly. No she didn't she wasn't black. The only difference between the two was one was super ugly and the other was super hot.

 

[monsharen]

While you do sound like an engaging young man Empty09, it also sounds like you have some social issues yourself. You think you're better than everyone else, yet "try" to sink to their level? Judging from your text it wouldn't surprise me if you eventually start hearing voices and go ape nuts with guns on people. Without having met you in real life this shit rings the psychopath bell for me. Don't bury stuff inside you, it will only come back to haunt you later on. With guns.

Now, now, I don't think Empty09 is psychotic or anything. After reading this thread so far, he just seems like a fake asshole. Sorry if that sounds harsh. I mean, I can't stand people, but I don't have a superiority complex, I don't think I'm better than others, and I don't try to humor people I deem as lesser than me (which I don't really deem others lesser than me).

You're really pretentious, fake, and other words I don't feel like digging out. You sound like you have one of the worst personalities out there, no different from those who piss you off, perhaps even worse.

I have split your response in two here, is the last bit directed to me or Empty09? I am guessing it is towards me since I did not really get those vibes from your previous responses. But feeling like one of those "lesser" beings mentioned in his texts I do feel a bit threatened by what he said, and no less by what you just said. Knowing that people in my surrounding might hold a grudge inside them instead of telling me/anyone else about it is sad in my world. Tell us dudes. Let it out and maybe the world will become a little better/easier for you.

Seriously, you have no room to judge others.

Seriously though, this is a forum and he did ask for our opinion. Venting and judging is a part of its nature. That go for all of us.

 

[Serifan]

What do you think of the people around you? Do you have a high tolerance or do you hate everyone?
In my experience, I’ve encountered people in all shapes and colors.

So you just started high school and that makes you a expert on life experiences and peoples attitudes? sorry kid I think you have a lot to yet to learn and experience.

The core attitudes at school will NEVER change, you will always have the nerds you will always have the popular kids. People will always follow trends and attitudes in school. The thing is school is just school and people do change after it.

 

[34thcell]

But feeling like one of those "lesser" beings mentioned in his texts I do feel a bit threatened by what he said...

You have a severe lack of general knowledge, a very poor taste in music, and/or enjoy making negative comments about minorities?

 

[AskWazzup]

So what’s your idea of the other people or the majority of people you meet?
Do you like the society you live in?

I just try to understand the reasons behind people being what they are, the circumstances they grew up in etc. Labeling everyone you don't like a loser, or a moron just from very short social encaunters is not a good idea, at least to me. Some people that i thought of as lesser than me actually turned out to be smarter and more talanted than me. I came to a conclusion that sometimes, by criticizing others irresponsibly i'm just masking my own insecurities. Not saying that there aren't assholes out there, but then again, they also weren't born that way.

My advice would be - be more tolerant, strive for compromises, think positively, smile more (it's actually a good way of autosuggestion, which makes you feel happier even when you fake it) and you will find that your social life will improve greatly. It doesn't mean that you will see improved results the same day, but it will get better eventually. In any case, being arrogant and self centered will not pay you dividens in the long run, be critical and argumentive, but try to do it positively.

 

[monsharen]

But feeling like one of those "lesser" beings mentioned in his texts I do feel a bit threatened by what he said...

You have a severe lack of general knowledge, a very poor taste in music, and/or enjoy making negative comments about minorities?

Hehe the eye of the beholder. A lot of people probably think like that about me, but I am actually quite nice and loving. About the negative comments part, it depends on the crowd and the minority and my feelings for that particular minority. I wish the very best for everyone around these forums but sometimes my messages are quite harsh and shit, but know that overall I just want to hug you and buy you beer.

Back on topic I do feel sorry for all the people voting for the "swedish democrats" in Sweden last night. We have a very uncertain political future the coming months/years. We won't perish, but new allies have to be formed and it will be interesting to see where that lead.

 

[Mutoes]

I used to think lesser of religious people, people with different tastes than me, and people that talked lot about mundane things. I was bitter and antisocial, then i grew up and those people became my best friends. They have families and carry more responsability than i ever have. Got real jobs and still keep in contact with me, people have more than meets the eye. That goes for good and bad tho.

I think feeling superior is part of normal cycle of growing up, most of my friends have told me these kind of thoughts at some point and i bet if you had seen them in high school you would have seen them as lesser beings too. I think people value themselves over others most of the time and it is natural, better though just to be honest to yourself and not make claims of intellectual superiority in your mind. People arent really that stupid they can see trough that kind of stuff eventually.

And yeah if it really went that way that your class started to throw insults at girl in middle of class it is pretty damn irritating.

 

[memetics]

I used to think lesser of religious people, people with different tastes than me, and people that talked lot about mundane things. I was bitter and antisocial, then i grew up and those people became my best friends. They have families and carry more responsability than i ever have. Got real jobs and still keep in contact with me, people have more than meets the eye. That goes for good and bad tho.

I used to be really religious, then I became a materialist and thought religion was the problem. The older I get, the more I realize that I don't know it all. I've come to realize that religiousness isn't the problem: willful ignorance is. For example, some people persist in the belief that illnesses and injuries come from a diety and that they can be cured by faith and prayer, when the evidence shows those actions to be ineffective (or at least significantly less effective than generally accepted medical solutions).

I agree with earlier posters that the issue seems to stem from our mob-mentality mechanism: it's hard to be in the minority of thinkers who prefer to try making decisions with a rational, scientific basis rather than relying on emotion and mysticism. Thinking is hard, and most people are comfortable enough in their willful ignorance (and accepted by others for it - even encouraged) that they won't make the effort to think. Even when it can be demonstrated that approaching problems rationally and scientifically leads to a higher percentage of better decisions.

I think feeling superior is part of normal cycle of growing up, most of my friends have told me these kind of thoughts at some point and i bet if you had seen them in high school you would have seen them as lesser beings too.

That's true: in some respects, that feeling of superiority is a defense mechanism against the insecurities we feel, especially during puberty. Interestingly, I've found that the more I try to honestly understand other people, the less superior and the more sympathetic I tend to feel (toward them and others). However, when I step back and try to look objectively at broader behavioral trends, or even at specific people and the ways they make decisions, it's hard not to notice significant differences and to feel a sense of futility. (I shudder thinking about election season and the low degree of critical thinking evident in both the campaign ads and the public responses.)

Even the smartest people make dumb mistakes, though, and arrogance is itself an alienating attitude (and probably another defense mechanism to cover insecurity), so humility seems to be the most sensible path if one wishes to get along with others to any degree for any meaningful length of time. Gotta interact with people to some degree, especially if one wants to keep the food and drink coming! ;=)

(Of related interest: Alan Alda's 3-part PBS documentary "The Human Spark", especially ep. 3, gives some great insights into why people likely evolved this propensity to attribute conscious intent to inanimate things that is probably the reason religious beliefs and systems evolved.)

-M

 

[Sander]

I always chuckle when people go "Yeah, it's all the other people who are idiots. Not me though. I'm a rational guy and I don't follow the mob menatlity."

It's a lazy mode of thinking and a lazy way to feel superior.