Documentary films

donperkan

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I fell in love with documentary films a long time ago David Attenboroughs soft voice sought to that.

Watched a lot of them, and still do, and im always looking for new.

So jeah, recommend some and share your thoughts.
 
favorite nature docu, "lions and hyenas, eternal enemies" an old nat geo special

i love david attenborough also
 
Fog of War is a great documentary. McNamara gives great insight in the mindset and the politics during the cold war.
 
Basically, every Attenborough documentary I've seen is really, really good - and I've seen a lot over the course of years.
One where he's narrating that stands out for me is The Blue Planet. Probably my favorite nature documentary out there.

Other than that, I recommend Walking with Dinosaurs - some CGI effects are outdated, but it is a great show. Also, check out the special The Ballad of Big Al. It's really more of a drama (?) than a nature doc, but I loved it.
I've seen Walking with Beasts, but I don't recall it as much as do with dinosaurs, but I'm pretty sure I enjoyed that one too.
Also, Walking with Cavemen - I've seen only one, maybe two episodes, but I enjoyed them.

I don't recommend Sea Monsters or Chased by Dinosaurs - both are part of the Walking with..., but I always thought the concept of those series is stupid.
 
I am not a fan of nature documentary's , nothing wrong with them just not my thing but science ones are right up my ally.

Through the worm hole with Morgan Freeman is one of the best I have seen, and the BBC Horisons ones are good but can be hit and miss occasionally. It's not exactly a documentary series but The sky at night on the BBC is great too if your into astronomy.

Non science ones that I can recommend are, Life after people, Tails of the Gun, and a once of the BBC had recently called Nomads it was about American nomadic groups from homeless teens traveling the mid west to the old people who retire buy a Mobile Home and travel around following the sun.
 
Sicko is not bad, but Micheal filled it with his standard bullshit.

Bbc can be pretty biased when reporting so i've learned to stay away from them when they do anything other then nature.

I have Fog of war somewhere in the house but i've never watched it. Whenever i watch something about cold war i always end up cheering for russians and get mad when america turns on top. Weird i know but i can't control my self.

I watched a german documentary Kinder im knast not too long ago its about kids in prison in russia
 
the problem with michael moore is that he uses very cheap tactics to get a totally legitimate point across.

and in such, he makes a mockery of his own agenda.

for example, when he wanted to show how paradise-like norwegian prisons are, he visited that prison on the little islet, where prisoners run barefoot, ride horses, and put flowers in their hair.
in reality that is an experimental prison in norway. ordinary prisons are... well... prisons. granted, theres no gang rape or such in norwegian prisons, but you really dont get to run on flowery meadows.

by exaggerating his own arguments, he ends up robbing himself of credibility.
its very unfortunate.
 
the issue is that moore is basically a lying douche bag making entertainment. Not documentary. The first thing that you could at least do is to give both sides the chance to answer. In many cases moore does nothing else but showing one side - granted I doubt that Bush would had ever gave him some interview or many of the "other" people he simply shows as evil. With many other movies though he twists comments around, cuts stuff away or simply lies about the facts.

If people call that a documentary. So be it. But its not. Definitely not. Its what a pleb would do. I don't even argue about it that he "might" have a point somewhere - though you don't need to be really intelligent to eventually say "dude somethings wrong here!" finding solutions thats the issue. But any criticism or documentary is nothing worth if you don't try at least to stay impartial. When it comes to journalism for example moore is pretty much doing everything wrong. A good documentary gives the audience the chance to form their own opinion based on the situation. The facts to speak so. It does not paint usually one side as black or white. Moore already forms the opinion for his audience and a very aggressive one.
 
Moore is a ass, he tries hard to put a point across but like a baby with a kalashnikov on full auto he misses the target by miles.

I am not a huge fan of Team America but this prity much sums up his interview technique.

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back to topic,
"The Killing of America" is available on youtube, and i found it very intriguing.
it documents the rise of violence in america from the 60s on to the 80s, everything from political assasinations, to street violence, to serial killers.
it doesnt get preachy, but merely observes and comments.

idunno what the policy is for posting links to complete films, but its readily available on there to look up.

i would also highly recommend Waltz with Bashir, an israeli animated documentary about the sabra shatila massacre in lebanon.
the animation in itself is excellent, and only made better by the way it is presented.
this one is also available in a comic book format, made simply from animation stills, but still aesthetically composed.
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+1 for tales of the gun
The Trials of Life was the one i remember from Attenborough as a kid. Had all of them bootleg on VHS.
The only TV I watch is documentaries. Shame that the history channel is turning the same way MTV did 10 years ago. No more history, no more soft voices to fall asleep to, just filming hics with fake jobs and making america look even stupider than New Jersey does already.
 
Michael Moore is the Breitbart of the left, only Bretibart managed against all odds to die first. Perhaps he choked on his own mediocrity? Moore possesses the ability to unhinge his jaw and could (and has!) easily swallowed things of that magnitude whole.

At any rate, the topic is documentaries. A big +1 for The Fog of War. For the record, Donperkan, it's more of an insider's window into the dealings of the day, especially the Vietnam War, than it is a Cold War documentary. For one man's ramblings, it's actually fairly evenhanded and deals a lot with the lessons McNamara's had time to learn from decades of reflection. He even manages to come across as contrite at times, and the film does a fairly decent job of highlighting the lunacy and the sensibility of both sides of the Cuban Missile Crisis and Vietnam. Also, it does a decent job (without actually trying!) of painting the U.S. bigwigs from WWII onward as the sons-of-bitches they've ofttimes been, without massaging facts or having a childish chip on its shoulder. You might enjoy it.

While we're on the subject of the cold war, I hate to come across as a monomaniac but I can't in good conscience not mention The Atomic Cafe and Countdown to Zero, both of great interest to anyone who considers themselves a student of the Atomic age. The former (on the remote chance that there's someone here who hasn't heard of it) is a darkly humorous collection of Atomic Age footage and propaganda, completely sans unifying narration, that thoroughly skewers the Government-propogated "Duck and Cover" ignorance and optimism of the atomic age in America. The latter traces and documents the worldwide proliferation of nuclear weaponry. Its message is one of global nuclear disarmament, but even if you don't agree, it's worth a watch for the history lesson alone.
 
Moore is awesome. I don't care if he uses the photage of alien nazis rolling a cannon down to an orphanage to get his point across as long as he's fighting the things he is and shiting on people he's shiting on. Again, Moore is awesome.
 
El Pagano Loco said:
Moore is awesome. I don't care if he uses the photage of alien nazis rolling a cannon down to an orphanage to get his point across as long as he's fighting the things he is and shiting on people he's shiting on. Again, Moore is awesome.

So you don't feel that cheep tactics, weaken the message somewhat?
 
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I also recommend anything by Louis Theroux if you are looking for something more lighthearted.
 
Yea his weird weekend series was cool, I can recall one where he had some hard core conservative Christians spend a week on tour with Cradle of Filth.
 
Just throwing a few titles in:

Let's Make Money
Inside Job
Gasland
Food Inc.
Workingman's Death
Into Eternity: A Film for the Future

They are all a good watch that make you think, they should however be taken with a grain of salt as per usual.
 
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