Bastard English Translation

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by naossano, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    I sometimes do localizations for mods or demo.

    I usually translate from english to french, as i understand english and i am able to write it the right way in french. For that, i can manage. I wouldn't do the opposite, as my english is not academic.

    On the other hand, i sometimes try mods in languages that i don't understand to see what content they have. Most of the time, those are unfinished products that only bring a few cosmetic stuff. No need to translate those. There are also huge mods that would be a pain in the ass to work with. Better wait for a full blown translation by a native.

    But for small to average mods that are complete enough and rely on dialogs options to move forward, i sometime do auto-translation of the game files from the source language (russian, german, polish etc...) to english, sometime adding some of the original english text files when they seem appropriate, and then enough corrections so i don't crash, don't have *error* or edit when i find out that i shouldn't have used this or that file\line for the original game.

    The goal is to make the mod playable. Usually, it works well enough to i can move forward, pick the right option in dialogs, and know enough of what the npc is speaking about. But the quality of that english is far from perfect. Sometimes, as a non native english speaker, i don't notice the difference. Sometime i do notice it. Sometimes i have troubles, but ultimately manage to undestand. Sometimes, the sentence is so scrambled that i don't understand it and i can't rephrase it as i don't know that the author intended to say.

    I don't intend to make a full translation out of of those bastard translations, as i am not a native english speaker. I am also aware that i am not the only one doing this. I saw people mention it on other threads. Yet, i also assume that some player don't want to trouble themselves with that process (that can easily take a while) and yet want to try those mods. On the other hand, the original author might also get pissed by a bad translation.

    So, i wonder, when there is no english version available, nor any english version planned, should those bastard english version be uploaded, so people don't go through the trouble of making their own bastard version ?
  2. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    I think they can be a nice start for letting more people understand their content. Someone might get interested enough to start working on a full translation.
  3. burn

    burn Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Apr 22, 2012
    I don't think it'd really achieve the intended results, but hey, it's your time, so spend it however you want.
  4. naossano

    naossano So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 19, 2006
    Depends on what is the intended result.

    I see two reasons to propose that :
    - Extend the playability into a language more well-known worldwide.
    - Not having every player who can do it go through the same troubles if there already one bastard translation available.

    On the other had :
    - The author might not be pleased if some players get only a partial experience of the mod.
    - It is only a substitute for translation, not a real one. If there is a real translation underway, that bastard translation should be removed ASAP.
  5. burn

    burn Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

    Apr 22, 2012
    Well, presuming the original post, the intended results would include someone actually benefitting from this. I don't really see a lot of requests for automatic translations, nor automatic translations that made their way into proper translations. In fact, I see none. Hence, I'm kind of sceptical of this.
    On the other hand, I would worry much less about original author being pissed. Just because someone's pissed, doesn't mean he's right.