Fallout 76 announced!

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Hassknecht, May 30, 2018.

  1. Eumesmopo

    Eumesmopo Learned to love the bomb

    Dec 6, 2012
    It doesn't take a genius to realize that employees that are still working on Obsidian can't openly criticize their bosses if they don't want to be fired, and even the ones that aren't on Obsidian anymore have to watch their tongues if they want to find another job in the future because employers hate lose lips. If anything, they have a lot of incentive to be asskissers and defend their managers, no matter how incompetent and irresponsible they might be, because the corporate ladder rewards sycophants.

    Besides, the shitness of PoE2 reinforces MCA's claims.
     
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  2. Charwo

    Charwo Still Mildly Glowing

    Mar 9, 2017
    I'm gonna be waiting on the reviews, and not the day it comes out reviews, I mean the reviews the day the Ultimate edition with all the DLCs put on sale for $30. I paid 90 on pre-order with Fallout 4 and I will NEVER make that mistake again.
     
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  3. Cobra Commander

    Cobra Commander A Smooth-Skin

    Dec 6, 2016
    i don´t use too much, but vats is a fun tool, I like it.
     
  4. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 26, 2007
    Within context, yes.

    VATS is no such thing. The opponents never get a turn. VATS is a "Talk to the hand; while I cap yer' ass!" on-demand cheat button. Its function is to stop everyone else, and let the player abuse them. At no point do the victims get their own turn at bat, and all of their own (in-progress) attacks, are attenuated; equal treatment under the rules—this is not.

    In Fallout, the turn was given to all, and choosing aimed shots was a risky expense of commitment that left the PC at a disadvantage if things didn't work out as planned. In VATS, the player is spending free action points—that regenerate. At their whim they can call a time-out, and then shoot people. Utterly absurd.

    I would like to see SOMEONE replace VATS with combat more akin to a hybrid of SuperHOT, and Fallout:Tactic's continuous turn based system—as they should have planned for FO3 from the early design stage.

     
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  5. stlkr

    stlkr First time out of the vault

    Mar 16, 2008
    20 years after war. So none of mutants and ghouls should be appearing?
     
  6. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    Uhh, Ghouls could be there. They didn't start to pop up at any particular point in time if not the get-go. Hell, if you follow the OG lore for Ghouls they should be even more common the closer to when the bombs fell the events take, as that used to be the only way the were "made".
     
  7. MPPlantOfficial

    MPPlantOfficial Still Mildly Glowing

    Aug 24, 2017
    "Pre-Order now and we'll tell you what this game actually is."

    I heard it was gonna be a Sims type game. In fact, there's some leaked footage:
     
  8. Risewild

    Risewild Half-way Through My Half-life
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    There shouldn't be many ferals, I guess. Ferals in Bethesda's own lore are ghouls that grew animalistic and crazy by living with the ghoul "condition" for many decades.
     
  9. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 26, 2007
    My impression of Ghouls from Fallout, was that they all originate at the Necropolis vault.
     
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  10. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Yeah, Bethesda might think they got away squeaky clean from Fallout 4, (and overall they probably did,) but they certainly damaged the trust in the brand that many had up to that point. I saw Fallout 4 had universally positive reviews, and everyone I knew was talking about it, so I spent more than $100 on the game and its season pass without question. Surely a critically acclaimed direct sequel to Fallout 3 and New Vegas would be a safe buy. What I got was a fucking shooter with an identity crisis and DLC that should have been included in the base game. Needless to say, I no longer trust video game critics, Bethesda Softworks, or my coworkers' opinions.

    Exactly, VATS is unfair. That doesn't mean you immediately scrap an interesting mechanic, though. It just needs to be balanced. Enemies should either get a chance to retaliate, or the player should be penalized in some way. This could be through something like the use of a resource or a negative buff.

    Ha, not if Todd Howard thinks they're cool. This is the same company that retconned the history of power armor solely because the marketing team lacked any creativity and needed something new to put on Fallout 4's box. I wonder how long they can shoehorn new armor into the series before they're up to T-1000.
     
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  11. Cure

    Cure Internet Nobody

    Nov 23, 2017


    If it's multiplayer focused then I'm out. Hopefully it removes the VO for the main character and puts the skills back in too, but I doubt it. The setting might be interesting, especially since it's not long after the bombs dropped. Might feel like its own thing rather than a cheap facsimile of every other Fallout game. I see another Vault Boy giving the thumbs up I'm gonna fucking lose it.
     
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  12. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    Yup, but one can easily argue that people on the west coast simply didn't know better.
     
  13. Eshanas

    Eshanas Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 6, 2016
    For all we know there could had been a massive early purge. In the post-apoc horror having someone seemingly rot away in front of you may not had ended very well. And Ferals can still be put in as a mixture of both radiation eating away the higher brain and stress aiding with that, or w/e.

    We also know that Gecko exists, which was seemingly a destination for ghouls (either voluntarily or not) in Northern California, it seems.

    Fun fact: Wooz had long hair! So all that controversy in Fallout 3 BS can stuff it.
     
  14. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA A Smooth-Skin

    Oct 26, 2016
    Former-employees. There's more to CA's claims and him shit-posting about it on RPGCodex hurts the claim further. Why would you choose RPGCodex of all places?

    Idk. They've expanded the fanbase extensively to where another Fallout that's mechanically similar to 4 will get them praise - regardless of what critics say.
     
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  15. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 26, 2007
    You see that is the same problem; That is not VATS after all those changes. That is akin to changing Checkers into Backgammon; where it's not just cosmetically changed, but the whole purpose is replaced with something else.
     
  16. BigGuyCIA

    BigGuyCIA A Smooth-Skin

    Oct 26, 2016
    They keep it around as a crutch for people that can't navigate FPP games. There's too much dedicated to that play-style, though: i.e. the penetrator perk only works in VATs and lets you shoot bullets through multiple layers of cover (even the ground) - completely absurd.

    Stuff like this is why I would have preferred they just double down on it being a shooter and implement modern shooting mechanics (shooting through cover, more fluid cover mechanics, etc).
     
  17. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 26, 2007
    That sounds like it's a kludge; hidden in plain sight.:clap:

    VATS in FO3 calculated shots from the hip to hip. This meant that the player could see their cross-hairs on the target's head, but that the projectile could hit a wall if it was in front of the target; higher up than the waist.
     
  18. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    If anyone thought that "Country Road" from the teaser is the most recent song of all the games, that's actually wrong; "In The Shadow of The Valley" from NV is from a whoppingly later 1998. And that's if you don't count Slipknot in BOS, which I... don't.
     
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  19. Big No

    Big No Watch as I open and close this door

    Oct 28, 2014
    It's actually pretty good Bethesda chose a relatively recent song for the teaser compared to a song from the 50s. Isn't that one of the main complaints about F3 & F4's soundtrack, too much 50s music when there should be 60s and 70s too?
     
  20. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Wow, TIL.

    Apparently Let's Ride Into the Sunset and Lone Star are as well, and all written purely to be licensed for films and games. That's a pretty shocking revelation given that Let's Ride is literally my favourite song in the game.
     
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