The Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Kalessin, May 4, 2006.

  1. Fins

    Fins It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Dec 31, 2017
    Russia exports ~45 billion USD worth of "not exactly specified or indicated" items (which i guess would include weapons export, among other things), but over 134 billion USD worth of oil and mineral fuels. Source. As for what Russia wants to have as its main export article - that's IT, and it's not a secret at all. If you can't even get those simple things right about one of world's largest countries and economies, how exactly am i expected to respect your opinion about such things? But i'm still trying. For now.

    So, for now, i read your "real democracy" term, and i respectfully ask you to reconsider. What's "real democracy"? By definition, it's "rule of the majority". As far as i know, both our countries are not real democracies. Nor should they be ones, that is. Nor could they be ones, too.

    But suppose for a moment that you're right and Finland is "more like a real democracy". Ok. But then, can you explain to me how, exactly, majority of people of Finland could allow this, this, this, this and this to happen, if it is said majority of Finns who de-facto rule the country? Do you think people of Finland just approved those things and gave 'em "go ahead", or would you rather think those things happen because people of Finland, whole nation i mean, - is not the force which ultimately rules the country and therefore had no say on those matters?

    I am sorry for being somewhat bad news to you, if it's that. But truth is truth, however unpleasant. You shouldn't get angry about someone just sharing what he sees around, me thinks.

    Real democracies are only possible small scale. I think, a city-state tops. Like Venice at some point of its history. Anything larger than that - just can't be ruled by all the people. Because it's too big, too complex, too difficult to know everything about. Because it gets way too possible for "bad guys" to do nasty things while pretty much noone else's watching. That piles up and grows into certain "elite circles", and quite soon and inevitably, select groups and sometimes individuals end up being supreme rulers. With or (more often) without most people of the country knowing anything about it. "Gray cardinal" is not a term without real-world meaning. Etc.

    P.S. Noam Chomsky is one US citizen who's among world's brightest people. ~8th or so most-often-quoted scientists of all times, too (means he's about on par with Einstein and such). So how do you think he estimates power structure of United States? Democracy? Nope. He says it's "inverted totalitarian state". See, this is pretty much the same in every major country out there: democracy is only a spectacle, an illusion to have masses distracted and pacified. And it is very needed and very proper thing to have it this way - practically possible alternatives are much worse. But any time i see someone say "real democracy" about any big country, i just can't help but smile (sadly), 'cause you know, that's not how things work in real life.
     
  2. Carib FMJ

    Carib FMJ Nuka-Cola Chaser

    Nov 8, 2003
    Looks at my pretty Talo Edition Tiger Ruger 10/22
     

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  3. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

    Oct 22, 2007
    That is a pretty stock. Talo does some pretty cool limited addition stuff. I love my Talo Wiley Clapp Colt.

    I am not much of a wheel gun guy, but I saw the caliber and couldn't help myself.
     
  4. JohnnyEgo

    JohnnyEgo Mostly Harmless

    Oct 22, 2007
    Paperwork also came back for my newest little friend.



    A little plastic surgery...



    And it looks a bit more like it's cousin.