Torment and Arcanum

Discussion in 'General Gaming and Hardware Forum' started by Karkow, Jun 14, 2004.

  1. Sander

    Sander This ghoul has seen it all
    Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Jul 5, 2003
    You're being completely silly. Most of these things are not objectively qualifiable. Majority does not make right, as history teaches us pretty much every day.
     
  2. MrBumble

    MrBumble Vault Fossil

    Jan 17, 2006
    Majority...this is fuckin stupid. Do you know that majority think that Oblivion is "teh rpg of teh year OMFG !!!" ? Does it makes it the rpg of the year because the majority think so ? HELL NOPE !

    IMO Arcanum rocks and even if I liked Planescape Torment I still thought that Arcanum was a hundred times better...I do not compare it with Fallout though but still both games are incredible !
     
  3. Roshambo

    Roshambo Antediluvian as Feck

    Apr 3, 2003
    And you're right because the sheep tell you so as you're running along with the herd mentality.

    Uh...right. There's your problem, and the problem with how much of the industry has gone to shit.

    Then, of course, Diablo 2 must be the bestest CRPG evar, because of its worldwide sales! Majority says so!
     
  4. Richoid

    Richoid It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Apr 22, 2006
    The sheep is just as run-of-the-mill in the morning as it is in the afternoon.

    Torment is the better game, while the plot is of a somewhat lower standing the actually game play is far from flawed.
     
  5. Sina

    Sina It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Aug 3, 2005
    I think there is an easy solution to this kind of problem.

    You start Torment.
    Play it for about five seconds, than if you can manage to turn it off before you have finished it, or atleast went without sleep for a few days, and then start to play Arcanum longer than five minutes you can safely uninstal Torment from your computer.
     
  6. John Uskglass

    John Uskglass Venerable Relic of the Wastes

    Aug 29, 2003
    Sorry to jump in late in the thread, but I totally agree with Alec. Arcanum is probably my favorite non-strategy game.
     
  7. Evil Feline

    Evil Feline First time out of the vault

    Feb 16, 2005
    A better example would be assassin:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin
    Now, can anyone think of a fantasy game that doesn't have assassins.
     
  8. Punck_D

    Punck_D First time out of the vault

    Nov 29, 2005
    Interesting.

    Heh, that's why an assassin is so blow-addicted. :)
     
  9. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    All words have etymologies. The question is rather whether they're perceived to be anachronistic or not.
     
  10. Evil Feline

    Evil Feline First time out of the vault

    Feb 16, 2005
    Yes, all words have etymologies.

    My point was:
    If you can't use the word Tesla in a fantasy game just cus he was a real dude.
    You shouldn't be able to use any words that stem from real-world organization either.

    Just like Kharn said, it's supposed to be a translation
     
  11. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    Wait, I think Tesla is fine too. Who's on the other side of the argument? Some damn rodent?
     
  12. Milo

    Milo Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 5, 2006
    haha, after all this you two agree?
     
  13. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    All what?
     
  14. Milo

    Milo Still Mildly Glowing

    Jan 5, 2006
    After all the arguing over putting the tesla gun into the game
     
  15. Per

    Per Vault Consort Staff Member Admin

    Apr 1, 2004
    The fact that people argued over putting the Tesla Gun in the game means I and Evil Feline are less likely to share an opinion?

    I don't get it.
     
  16. Evil Feline

    Evil Feline First time out of the vault

    Feb 16, 2005
    Milo, for future reference I would recommend reading the entire thread (or at least the last few pages) before posting.
    If you don't want to look like a complete ass that is.
    Ratty was the one who said Tesla was inappropriate for a fantasy game. Per and I just misunderstood each other, it happens.



    But now I really think we should get back on topic.

    I haven't actually finished either game, because I've been forced to restart both twice.

    But from what I have played I concluded this:

    1.Both Games have flawed combat.
    In Torment I kept getting the enemies to attack Morte instead of me, seeing as he had a higher AC.
    In Arcanum I was constantly trying to lure enemies away from their packs, cause they were to difficult to defeat all at once. And once you get knocked down in combat you're Fucked, you cant even use a fatigue restorer to get back up.

    2. Character creation is standard in Torment, but original & exciting in Arcanum with lots of different races and backgrounds to chose from.

    3. The graphics in both games is really good.
    Torment got a cool gothic feal and Arcanum got this nice 18th century artwork look to it.

    4. Storyline seems good in both games, maybe better in Torment, I'll know when I get to the end.

    5. Am I the only one who likes the music in arcanum, I think it fits the setting well.

    So witch ones better, Guess I'll know when finish them.
     
  17. requiem_for_a_starfury

    requiem_for_a_starfury So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Apr 3, 2003
    The music in Arcanum was good, for about 5 mins. Then after that I had to turn it off or throw myself out the window as it is so monotonous. It probably wasn't but it certainly seemed like the same 2min music sample looped continously for the whole game.

    Enough to drive anyone insane.
     
  18. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
    But it suites the game! :shock: You don't expect Death-Metal in
    18th century do you :?:
     
  19. Tannhauser

    Tannhauser Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Orderite

    Mar 18, 2004
    You are missing the point entirely. I don't believe anyone is saying that the music doesn't fit the game. Rather that nearly all the tracks of Arcanum sound similar, and so the music becomes annoying through sheer repetitiveness.

    By the time you hear the Qintarra or Wheel Clan tracks, it is a relief to hear something different.
     
  20. DirtyDreamDesigner

    DirtyDreamDesigner Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Moderator

    Apr 15, 2005
    I'll have to disagree here. I didn't find it repetitive at all, it's non-intrusive, atmospheric and enjoyable, in fact I listened to the music after playing the game I still listen to it from time to time, depending on the mood.