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Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Gonzalez, Jul 6, 2017.
Can't wait. Fuck GoT.
We might have had one of the most feel good episodes yet.
This show has a lot of interesting tidbits that go beyond the incredibly weird. For example, in the last episode, one of the characters who doesn't speak and is in the background is Gersten Hayward a.k.a Donna's Sister who appeared in two episodes. She's played by the same actress and is now a drug addicted prostitute despite being a piano prodigy among other things years ago.
Love those little bits.
Yep. Didn't notice that until someone pointed it out. So good. I love how the one person who knows what the symbol on the map means won't tell Truman what it is.
Last episode was great, the ending nearly made me cry where he meets the Casino woman again.
It's all coming together yet, I could stick around with this.
Great episode, I'm looking forward to the next.
Old Mathew Lillard is depressing as fuck.
It was a weird moment when he was unrecognizable as anything but a talented older actor until he had a moment when he was terrified and pulled his face back with his hands and my brain went BWHUH as it recognized him as Shaggy.
Okay, Episode 12...
SCREW YOU EPISODE.
You do not do that to Audrey. She is the most beloved character in the franchise.
I was hoping for a huge role from her.
You still don't know what he has planned for her. A lot of strange things going on. I feel like more people have some body snatcher type things going on...
Also some people are pissed...
"I agree but I also feel like that's the problem with this whole series. There are diamonds in the rough which will, one assumes, add up to something, but in the meantime there are literally hours of material that are sub-par, uninvolving emotionally, not engaging in any level, and just, it seems, deliberately slow and slow on purpose. That sweeping-up scene, for example. And sometimes I feel like details are in there not out of some love for the characters, story, or "world" of Twin Peaks but because Lynch's fetishizing on them right now. Sad to say Ms. Bell seems to me to be one of the latter. A woman with many talents she may be, but acting or moving naturally in camera are not among them. Observe again her absurdly bad acting and reactions when invited to join the Blue Rose team. She looks like a robot trying to do what a human would do in those circumstances. Please don't try to tell me she was the best actress for the part. She's one of Lynch's women of the hour and has been for a while, not suggesting an a inappropriate relationship mind you, but he does tend to fixate on certain woman. And though not to my taste, most of the groups featured in the painfully long and time-wasting weekly music videos from the perplexingly, bafflingly alternative-music friendly Bang Bang, I can at least see something in them (though I HATE HATE HATE that almost an entire episode's worth of time, in toto, will be eaten up by these things by the end of the season). But that absolute SHIT that rolled at the end of this episode, coupled with the most inane, banal, needless bullshit dialogue (I don't care if the guy driving that car was Evil Coop) acted by three of the most amateurish and awful actors I've ever seen -- especially that dude, he's just fucking awful -- I was rolling my eyes and just bursting with irritation. Standing by, of course, to be pedantically told that I don't "get it." I've been follow by Twin Peaks since the first episode aired in ABC. Every time I beef about this new series's shortcomings -- and to be honest, about 30% has been great, spot on, not what I "expected" or "wanted" but engrossing, cool, weird, and about 70% has been tediously paced crap like these rubbish, repetitious Dr. Jacoby scenes and other gibberish -- somebody has to explain to how it's a "feeling and not a story." To which I say BULL SHIT. It needs to be both: it can be a really fucked up story, told in a bizarre way. And that's fine. The mood and the tone need to have some consistency and some internal connection to the heartbeat of the story. Thus far that has mostly not been the case here. And the "Twin Peaks mood" such as it is, that eerie-yet-comforting, slight off-kilter, occasionally tripping sideways into madness, is almost entirely absent here. This show shudders from ham-fisted unfunny physical comedy to endlessly tedious scenes that accomplish in 10 minutes, on every level, what could be accomplished in 5 or 6, with less self-indulgence, to thrillingly terrifying violence to otherworldly, revelatory, unique cinematic achievements to the most banal, objectively terribly-executed sequences like the Bang Bang dialogue tonight. I will be astonished if, not long after this is over, a tidy fan edit of 4-5 hours or so doesn't emerge that's tighter, more engrossing and horrifying and ultimately satisfying. That said, they will have to pull a series of rabbits out of hat to pull all these lose ends together in 6 hours, at the glacial pace they are telling this story."
I trust David Lynch more than most film makers and am loving the show but it's 2/3rds of the way done and there's a hundred or so plots which need to be resolved in three hours.
I'm pretty sure Audrey is going to have a role but it doesn't seem like a large one.
Which makes me sad.
And yeah, that is one big rant. I will say I don't have any problem with Chrysta Bell. She just basically follows Gordon and Albert around, looking pretty as well as allowing someone to play off of their zanniness. It's not like she's a central character.
I don't get the hatedom.
Where the fuck did Agent Chester Desmond go I wonder? What happens to these people in the long run? I assume the same place Phillip Jeffries vanished off to, but I am beginning to think more about these Doppleganger, body snatching like with Cooper and possibly Annie, and the apparent mind wiping that occurs. Take Candy for instance. What about this cripple dude that gave blood this episode? The old man (Harry Dean Stanton) asked him questions and he acted much like Dougie would before shuffling off, possibly due to blood loss (haha) but still. It just got me to thinking since that old man was one of the last to see Agent Chester Desmond and that damn ring....
Sarah Palmer was arguing with herself about getting the keys as she was leaving the store later on. I am thinking the woodsmen convenience store has something to do with this scene...Perhaps another inhabiting spirit is involved possibly even Lara? That strange creature crawled in a girls mouth who may or may not be Sarah Palmer then we get her acting weird as hell a few episodes later, then we get a scene of Dr. Amp that seemed just like one in the beginning of the season. I'm not sure if it was the exact same scene or if it is showing the repetitive nature of wackos like that, but I do believe we are being shown some events in a different order or at the same time as previous events, somewhat like you would see in Pulp Fiction. I am thinking of rewatching the season because this left us with a lot of clues and many fans are too busy whining about Audrey being a slut and Coop still being retarded. Frankly I like the new Blue Rose crew and didn't really miss Dougie this episode with all the other plot developments.
This Billy character was mentioned again too so I guess that might finally be wrapped up.
When Hawk came to see her at her house the weird reverse/creepy-as-fuck music from the convenience store/Jeffries scene started playing.
Not a fan of Audrey really.
Some people are starting to think the Woodsmen are going to invade Twin Peaks.
Episode 12 was by far one of the weakest, but still a great episode.
It felt like a nice change of pace given the last few episodes.
I have a feeling that Sarah knows more than she's letting on.
I have a feeling Sarah isn't Sarah.
Various Peaks related stuff. Just finished watching Lost Highway. Next is Blue Velvet.
since episode 14 The Giant living on a body of water led me to think him and the woman might be water elementals, of course that could also symbolize the subconscious. I was actually reading the Secret Teachings of All Ages earlier on all the elemental types. The Man From Another Place is clearly some kind of Earth Elemental especially when you take into account him dealing with the ring and being attached to a tree. Bob is fire I would wager but that should be fairly obvious. Air gets me wondering though. I'm reading a chapter now on The Elements and Their Inhabitants which describes the birthing of spirits in a clear white protoplasmic egg. Sound familiar folks? The one small lodge spirit with the long nose mask reminds me of a Satyr in some ways actually. It all goes back to the books I read by Jacques Vallee that compared modern UFO encounters to fairies hundreds of years ago. Encounters with the fair folk were often triggered upon entering circular grove's, exactly like we see with the Sycamores. Something of note: elementals are not technically spirits since they have flesh, blood, and bones. Earth spirits live the shortest. Air the longest. Average length of life is 300 to 1000 years. Most are of high moral character. It goes on to differentiate between angels and other superior entities.