Which Fallout Was Better? (2018)

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Brycen, Mar 10, 2018.

As of 2018, which Fallout was better by comparison?

  1. Fallout

    18 vote(s)
    32.1%
  2. Fallout 2

    10 vote(s)
    17.9%
  3. Fallout 3

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  4. Fallout: New Vegas

    26 vote(s)
    46.4%
  5. Fallout 4

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  1. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 26, 2007
    It might have been better to allow the PC some starting equipment, or a grace period of a few game days to improve; even a starter dungeon before entrance to the main gameworld.
     
  2. mithrap

    mithrap Ring a ding-ding, baby

    May 17, 2016
    At some point, the Van Buren mod using the good old engine will be done. We might see a new challenger to this list, one day. At least I hope so.

    About the idea of making our own game, wasn't there some talkings about a modding kit for Wasteland 2, at some point ? With an editor like this, we'd have quite a good starting template. I couldn't find anything about it, but if it exists, believe me, I will learn how to use it.
     
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  3. Millim

    Millim What the fuck is this for a shit?!

    Oct 13, 2010
    The best chance we have is just making out own PnP RPG unrelated to Fallout, which is something I'm kinda interested in
     
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  4. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    I'll always be down, definitely let me know when you want to get that started.
     
  5. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Jul 30, 2009
    I kinda thought there was potential to make it a Wiz 8 like game since the trappings for combat already existed in Vats. It looks silly, but think about it. :lol:

     
  6. Dionis

    Dionis Nuclear Russia Modder

    Aug 26, 2016
    1. Fallout
    2. Fallout 2
    3. Fallout NV
    4. Empty
    5. Empty
    ......
    999. Bethesda's Fallout
     
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  7. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 26, 2007
    It could work; be functional, and stat dependent. It could be closer than FO3 to Fallout 1 & 2... but so is FOBOS really.

    My issue with FPP really is that the series is intended to be isometric; just as Diablo 1, 2, and 3. Would Diablo 3 have been acceptable as a Dark Messiah clone? You are talking about the combat, of course. Personally I have never liked VATS, because it (on the surface only) alludes to the optional choice to aim a shot in Fallout, but in Fallout, aiming was an action during a turn. In FO3, VATS is stopping time, and giving multiple free attacks to the player while their victim has no recourse... and any attacks of theirs that happen to hit, do so at a free -90% damage resistance.

    VATS is a cheat.

    Making the mechanics into a 1:1 turn based combat system would be an improvement. But the Wizardy UI implies that the party is under control—does it not? (or could you have all NPCs, but one in Wizardy?)

    BTW/Aside: I am not wholly against FPP in Fallout sequel... but I'd prefer it be done in the style of Nocturne; used for close inspection—not unlike the conversations in Fallout.
     
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  8. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Jul 30, 2009
    That’s really the crux of what I was going for. I didn’t say it here now, but the intent with me pushing Wizardry 8 design is that if it had to be FPP, it could be done to a somewhat satisfactory manner.

    Of course a proper sequel should be isometric.

    The party is under control in Wizardry (you create six and hire from a varied cast to the remaining two slots during your travels), but for the example here, it doesn’t need to be the case. The party controllability could be turned into action points and have the AI decide for party nember actions.

    Anyway, while that was a half joke, I really would play a turnbased Fallout blobber any day over the FPS ones we have.

    I’ve also wondered how a Fallout game (a spinoff) might work if it had a straight top-down view like GTA 1&2 and Dreamweb. What kind of TB combat would be suitable there.
     
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  9. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    The way I'm implementing it in my game is ripped straight from Mystery Dungeon. Every step you take or every action equals one turn or possibly more depending on your speed/agility.
     
  10. President_Peaches

    President_Peaches First time out of the vault

    Mar 4, 2018
    Even as a big fan of New Vegas, I've got to totally agree with this point. Compare the President of the NCR in Fallout 2 as compared to NV- Kimball is an intergral part of the main storyline, and only appears in the game at that specific point of the quest, while Tandi is in her office throughout the game doing president stuff, and you don't even have to go near Shady Sands to finish the game.

    Though I think that New Vegas has some of the best storytelling in the series, the clunkyness in both story and gameplay inherited from Bethesda's previous offering make hard to say its my favourite.
     
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  11. Norzan

    Norzan Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Apr 7, 2017
    Who's the heathen who put Fallout 4 as their favorite? Banish this demon from the forum!

    I'm joking obviously. Or am i?


    Fallout 1 and New Vegas are tied and still no vote for Fallout 3. But then again, this is just a forum filled with Bethesda haters. :smug:
     
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  12. nkchan16

    nkchan16 Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jul 27, 2016
    In terms of replay value, I'd say, FNV > Fallout 2 >> Fallout. Yes, FNV has a higher replayability, probably due to character customization, DLCs and so on. I think Fallout is the most restrictive game in the series, which is why I don't really like it that much, as someone who prefers playing sandbox games.
     
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  13. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Oct 27, 2003
    I have to admit however, having a place where you can train up un-armed combat for free, by battling other players in a boxing ring would kick ass.

    Punch to the groin, FTW.
     
  14. 0wing

    0wing Все умрут, а я волномут

    Mar 23, 2015
    The first Fallout? Not even once. This golden raspberry goes to Fallout 3. Every single playthrough goes by same single scenario.
     
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  15. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    I think there's a reason Fallout 3 doesn't even appear in his list. You can't put enough ">" signs there to accurately show how far behind it would be.
     
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  16. TerminallyChill

    TerminallyChill Be excellent to each other.

    Feb 16, 2018
    Hmm let me see, do I want to disarm a dangerous bomb or blow up a town filled with innocent people because it's ugly? Purify a city's water supply, or kill everything because I'm a racist? Such deep, open ended, and thought provoking choices. Seriously though, I've seen villains in Saturday morning cartoons with more believable motivations. Enclave notwithstanding.
     
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  17. President_Peaches

    President_Peaches First time out of the vault

    Mar 4, 2018
    New Vegas with (updated) F2 mechanics and graphics would pretty much be the best thing in the world.
     
  18. Norzan

    Norzan Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    Apr 7, 2017
    Fallout 3 now has a vote. mfkdggrfll is probably jumping in joy.