Who is VATS for?

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 Discussion' started by DocConrad, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. DocConrad

    DocConrad First time out of the vault

    Jul 8, 2007
    Is it a nod to the original fans, as heralded or is it just another concession to shooter enthusiasts?

    From the latest "CD Action" magazine:

    From the above we can infer one of the following possibilities:

    1) The previewer simply got it wrong or it was an issue with that particular build.
    2) Hand-to-hand combat in Fallout will be handled like that in Morrowind; a socially acceptable, non-lethal combat up until the combatant is knocked unconscious, after which actual physical damage can be dealt.
    3) The reality of Unarmed combat is exactly how it reads and there is little to no tactical advantage in using VATS for this mode of gameplay.

    If the third option is assumed, other alarming questions are raised:

    -Are unarmed weapons, such as Brass Knuckles, the Power Fist, etc. as tactically impotent as hand-to-hand?
    -Does this same truncated combat mechanism carry over to melee weapons?

    If these are in fact the case then VATS only truly serves to advance the "shooter" elements of the game, leaving Unarmed and Melee combat in the click-happy realm of Oblivion.
  2. RPGenius

    RPGenius Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Oct 10, 2005
    It's a case of the game's identity crisis, in my opinion. The game seems unsure of what it wants to be at the best of times. Taking elements from shooters, BS games and every now and again, if we're lucky, Fallout, seemingly at random.

    It's them trying to make an element of the fallout system in a shooter.
  3. daemonofdecay

    daemonofdecay First time out of the vault

    Jul 15, 2008
    The game developers have stated that Hand to Hand combat can/will be lethal, and you can equip things like brass-knuckles to do more damage. And they also said that using melee combat will do lots of damage to make up for the distance you would need to cross to get to your target.

    I cant remember if melee combat uses vats or not, but I think it doesn't and remains like Oblivion.
  4. horse

    horse Vault Fossil

    May 31, 2003
    using vats in melee increases your damage and crit chance. in what degree, remains unclear. no aimed "shots" tho in melee and hth.