Interesting Observations on the Fallout Tactics World Map

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"Set Phasers to Fun."
Denver can be seen on the map. Interestingly, Van Buren, being developed simultaneously, also included Denver as a location (Dog City).

Three huge craters can be seen in southern Minnesota. I checked, and the area roughly corresponds with the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Maybe the Chinese just really hated the Mall of America.

There are a few small craters south of that...I couldn't tell where they were located on the real world map, but I get the feeling that it's Des Moines, Iowa.

Maybe I'm being a bit of a conspiracy theorist here, but what if some of these were included as a sort of easter egg for the original Fallout 4? I've heard that Black Isle's Fallout 4 was going to take place in the Midwest with Caesar's Legion being a major faction. Then again, it's all probably just for the aesthetics of the map. :wink:

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Tactics, as good as it was, missed out on such oportunities as a game - a bigger game.

The intro boasts with Chicago, the skyline, and immediately we're handed Brahmin Wood

I love the game, but it could have been so much more
 
zegh8578 said:
Tactics, as good as it was, missed out on such oportunities as a game - a bigger game.

The intro boasts with Chicago, the skyline, and immediately we're handed Brahmin Wood

I love the game, but it could have been so much more
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Agreed. I liked tactics and hoped for a sequel, sadly it was stopped.
 
zegh8578 said:
Tactics, as good as it was, missed out on such oportunities as a game - a bigger game.

The intro boasts with Chicago, the skyline, and immediately we're handed Brahmin Wood

I love the game, but it could have been so much more
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I definitely agree. The demo even had a little bit of Chicago- the 'Devil's Graveyard', a sort of throwback to the Angel's Boneyard. The intro is a bit deceptive. It's a pity we can't visit Chicago in-game.

I'll bet Black Isle's Fallout 4 would have expanded upon what Tactics laid out.
 
The-Artist-64 said:
zegh8578 said:
Tactics, as good as it was, missed out on such oportunities as a game - a bigger game.

The intro boasts with Chicago, the skyline, and immediately we're handed Brahmin Wood

I love the game, but it could have been so much more
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I definitely agree. The demo even had a little bit of Chicago- the 'Devil's Graveyard', a sort of throwback to the Angel's Boneyard. The intro is a bit deceptive. It's a pity we can't visit Chicago in-game.

I'll bet Black Isle's Fallout 4 would have expanded upon what Tactics laid out.
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According to infinity and multiverses, Black Isle does make Fallout 4 - in another universe, another time and place.
Just the fact that in OUR universe - they are so close to it - so close, yet so far away - it means that the odds are quite good for that reality to take form.
I'm not sure if I find it more or less comforting to consider

Without getting too philosophical here, I was struggling to explain this to a friend - but how sad is it, that this is IT... THIS is humanity. THIS...
And when we show our achievements to the aliens one day, we are going to have to admit that, yes, FO4 was a Game of the Year. Yes, aliens, we ARE highly logical and intelligent beings - no, we are, we assure you!
The aliens would be puzzled by our skill to create so much - and our own impositions on ourselves
Instead, we dream. We dream of Black Isle's FO4, and we make movies about brave and fair people helping the world to become better for everyone :V
 
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zegh8578 said:
According to infinity and multiverses, Black Isle does make Fallout 4 - in another universe, another time and place.
Just the fact that in OUR universe - they are so close to it - so close, yet so far away - it means that the odds are quite good for that reality to take form.
I'm not sure if I find it more or less comforting to consider

Without getting too philosophical here, I was struggling to explain this to a friend - but how sad is it, that this is IT... THIS is humanity. THIS...
And when we show our achievements to the aliens one day, we are going to have to admit that, yes, FO4 was a Game of the Year. Yes, aliens, we ARE highly logical and intelligent beings - no, we are, we assure you!
The aliens would be puzzled by our skill to create so much - and our own impositions on ourselves
Instead, we dream. We dream of Black Isle's FO4, and we make movies about brave and fair people helping the world to become better for everyone :V
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Did you take massive amounts of drugs before making this post
 
frajaq said:
zegh8578 said:
According to infinity and multiverses, Black Isle does make Fallout 4 - in another universe, another time and place.
Just the fact that in OUR universe - they are so close to it - so close, yet so far away - it means that the odds are quite good for that reality to take form.
I'm not sure if I find it more or less comforting to consider

Without getting too philosophical here, I was struggling to explain this to a friend - but how sad is it, that this is IT... THIS is humanity. THIS...
And when we show our achievements to the aliens one day, we are going to have to admit that, yes, FO4 was a Game of the Year. Yes, aliens, we ARE highly logical and intelligent beings - no, we are, we assure you!
The aliens would be puzzled by our skill to create so much - and our own impositions on ourselves
Instead, we dream. We dream of Black Isle's FO4, and we make movies about brave and fair people helping the world to become better for everyone :V
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Did you take massive amounts of drugs before making this post
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Define "before"
Not right before no. No I did NOT!
 
zegh8578 said:
frajaq said:
zegh8578 said:
According to infinity and multiverses, Black Isle does make Fallout 4 - in another universe, another time and place.
Just the fact that in OUR universe - they are so close to it - so close, yet so far away - it means that the odds are quite good for that reality to take form.
I'm not sure if I find it more or less comforting to consider

Without getting too philosophical here, I was struggling to explain this to a friend - but how sad is it, that this is IT... THIS is humanity. THIS...
And when we show our achievements to the aliens one day, we are going to have to admit that, yes, FO4 was a Game of the Year. Yes, aliens, we ARE highly logical and intelligent beings - no, we are, we assure you!
The aliens would be puzzled by our skill to create so much - and our own impositions on ourselves
Instead, we dream. We dream of Black Isle's FO4, and we make movies about brave and fair people helping the world to become better for everyone :V
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Did you take massive amounts of drugs before making this post
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Define "before"
Not right before no. No I did NOT!
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Hmm... I think it's LSD....
 
Multiverses aren't all that unlikely though, seriously speaking.

Think of "one" versus "many" things.

How many things are just one? One world? Nope, there's plenty, not only that - but millions and millions - we don't actually know HOW many planets there are in the universe, there's that many.
Suns? Many. Billions. Hundreds of billions. Billions of billions.

Why should *the universe* be an exception, and be just one?

Confinement is easy for us humans, we confine ideas. A body stops where the skin is, and contains organs confined within it. In real reality we are oxygen, the air is oxygen, we are iron, the ground is iron, we are electrons - we are surrounded by electrons. Confinement isn't necesarily as real as we think it is.

An open neverendingness is likelier than comforting to consider, and I prefer the "visual depiction" suggested in an interview with Hawking, where he imagined a kind of foam - each bubble a universe. This foam has no bottom, no top, and no end in either direction. It just fills everything with itself, and consists of everything - and always did *brainmelt*
 
zegh8578 said:
Multiverses aren't all that unlikely though, seriously speaking.

Think of "one" versus "many" things.

How many things are just one? One world? Nope, there's plenty, not only that - but millions and millions - we don't actually know HOW many planets there are in the universe, there's that many.
Suns? Many. Billions. Hundreds of billions. Billions of billions.

Why should *the universe* be an exception, and be just one?

Confinement is easy for us humans, we confine ideas. A body stops where the skin is, and contains organs confined within it. In real reality we are oxygen, the air is oxygen, we are iron, the ground is iron, we are electrons - we are surrounded by electrons. Confinement isn't necesarily as real as we think it is.

An open neverendingness is likelier than comforting to consider, and I prefer the "visual depiction" suggested in an interview with Hawking, where he imagined a kind of foam - each bubble a universe. This foam has no bottom, no top, and no end in either direction. It just fills everything with itself, and consists of everything - and always did *brainmelt*
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Oh no, GET THE ALARM!!! WE'VE GOT A QUESTION ON LIFE CREEP!!!
 
Dr Fallout said:
zegh8578 said:
Dr Fallout said:
Oh no, GET THE ALARM!!! WE'VE GOT A QUESTION ON LIFE CREEP!!!
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I've no idea what that sentence means :D
You're referencing something I don't know what is - or you completely went nuts

did I do that? D:
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I love Philosophy, but it drives me crazy.
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I wouldn't consider it philosophy per se, but yes, I get what you mean. Infinity in itself is pretty harsh to an animal organic mind - well, is and isn't.

When it comes to philosophy - per se - I have much less to observe or opine. "Meaning of life" "purpose" etc are sounds and noises we make, that come from something else
What is the meaning of that sound behind me? It's a bear! Run!
That's the purpose of ropes and fabrics? To stay warm, and survive.

We then apply this to everything and anything - what's the meaning of life? What's the purpose of existence? What's the purpose of meaning and meaning of purpose
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As soon as we stop asking, stop making those noises "puuur---poooossss... " then purpose and meaning go away, and stop meaning anything, and we realize that we have as much meaning as a cat - which has as much meaning as a dandelion - which has as much meaning as a lump of magnesium - which has as much meaning as any kind of energy or matter congregated in one spot.

Why can we think and feel? Why is blue? Where is blue? How is blue? See? Words and noises put together, we expect meaning, we expect answers, when there never was one. We just are :] Well, that's how I see it anyway.
 
Hardboiled Android said:
Dr Fallout said:
zegh8578 said:
Tactics, as good as it was, missed out on such oportunities as a game - a bigger game.

The intro boasts with Chicago, the skyline, and immediately we're handed Brahmin Wood

I love the game, but it could have been so much more
Click to expand...

Agreed. I liked tactics and hoped for a sequel, sadly it was stopped.
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Tactics 2 sounds sorta dumb- a malfunctioning GECK creating mutant wildlife
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Really? It sounded original to me!
 
I have to agree, the plot outline for Tactics II felt a bit weak to me. I was never a big fan of monsterisms, and even less when monsters take on too human characteristics (in fact, I liked the de-humanoidization of the mirelurks in FO4 for this reason. Especially the mirelurk kings, which had no reason to look human - at all!)

I would probably have liked the finished game though, since I love Tactics, but still have issues with a lot of the elements (I guess this is part of a healthy, critical approach to stuff, even if you like it!)
(particularily all the humanoid robots seemed a bit silly to me - also, why did the robots fire human handguns? They're robots. Make them shoot lazors from their eyes or something, be creative.)
 
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