Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Probably.
Where'd Toront go?
Where'd Toront go?
What are some of your unpopular opinions?
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Tenebris
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Toront?
Mr Fish
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wut?
Tenebris
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i don't like new vegas design for glock 86 plasma pistol and winchester p94 plasma rifle, the plasma caster is now more of big weapons of how much its bulky, the original had a believable look for a rifle, and the plasma defender is now generic glock with a green light on it
and i have seen better modules from fans that represent the original weapons better even if they are not 100% accurate
and i have seen better modules from fans that represent the original weapons better even if they are not 100% accurate
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ZooBis
First time out of the vault
It always perplexes me as to why the 3D games felt the need to redesign the originals despite them being fine and already having a reference to work with, instead of taking the time to create new designs. This is especially evident in the power armors, where the 3D ones look unnecessarily detailed, fat, and bulky like Fallout 4, 76, and show instead of tall, lean, and agile, like the classics, which look more imposing and badass.
Tenebris
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they deleted POWER ARMOR BUTT CHEECKS! how did they even dare to delete it?
and yeah i feel the same about that weird urge to redesign in games, especially power armor, the whole point was that it had human level agile and make the wearer being able to lift support weapons
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Tenebris
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new vegas saying that the ncr can't understand how to use power armor is upper bullshit, every design philosophy after ww2 is about simplicity and accessibility, how power armor training is a good retcon? how the ncr a literal nation can't understand shit about one type of armor?
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Mr Fish
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Yeah manufacturing would be one thing. Hell even maintaining could be understandable. But just using it? Nah they'd figure it out after a while.
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
I much prefer the Bethesda Sentry Bot to the Interplay one.
Tenebris
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i don't agree, the fallout 2 one is more retro futuristic and have more gothic ray gun in its design and less industrial, it fits the aesthetic more than black robot with red eyes as something evil and military
also wheels are far inferior to bulky feet
also wheels are far inferior to bulky feet
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ZooBis
First time out of the vault
I think it's New Vegas having to work with the leftovers from Fallout 3, so they probably didn't have much choice but to include it. If it were up to them, they wouldn't have included it since Josh Sawyer made a mod for New Vegas that removed power armor training from the game.
Tenebris
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the problem here isn't the training, the problem is someone though the power armor are complex machinery that a nation like the ncr and its military personnel can't figure out how to move their muscles in an "armor" that follow "their muscles movements"
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
They could have just as easily removed the requirement from the get-go tbh. Unlike Bethesda's games, Power Armor isn't easily just found in the world in New Vegas, even the sets you can loot off corpses for the Brotherhood missions are areas that aren't as easily accessible like an irradiated pit with Centaurs, the middle of the Boomers' targeting area, and inside the Repconn facility with multiple hurdles in the way to the top floor.
ZooBis
First time out of the vault
I saw Josh Sawyer get interviewed and mentioned he didn't want to reinvent the wheel since a lot of the people who are going to play New Vegas are going to be the same people who played Fallout 3 and wanted New Vegas to be familiar to them, which is why I think they felt the need to keep power armor training in the game and make it fit with the lore.
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Tenebris
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actuallyWell there’s also the fact that Aradesh is some kind of Hindu and mentions Dharma. And whatever happened to that obelisk in the middle of Shady Sands?
Edit: سوف تتدفق الأنهار إلى اللون الأحمر بدماء الكافرة
Serious edit: I actually don’t think it’s too strange that the NCR lost most of its cultural identity from the Shady Sands days, because the NCR isn’t just Shady Sands. Shady Sands facilitated its formation but it started as an alliance between Shady Sands, Junktown, the Hub, and Adytum. All of those other places are pretty much regular Americans (even if the Hub tries to have a bit of a Middle Eastern bazaar vibe) so it’s logical that that culture would dominate.
i think shady sands would probably have a strong identity to its origins, while the hub should is the most diverse in culture
think about it, in normal cases the hub would turn into the capital because most people go there, it is the trading center after all, but it didn't, it still will have more population than shady sands because of job opportunities, so why going to the capital when the hub exist?
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Tenebris
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i don't like the kings, the faction is stupid, like how elivs school still exist or elvis is still famous after 100 years of his death? you would think in 100 years another talent overshadowed him
it is a stupid joke about Vegas! and its association with Elvis!
i know there is a reason but it is a pop culture joke that no one needed
it would have been better if instead of elvis they made them maybe dean domino impersonators? maybe another musician
it is a stupid joke about Vegas! and its association with Elvis!
i know there is a reason but it is a pop culture joke that no one needed
it would have been better if instead of elvis they made them maybe dean domino impersonators? maybe another musician
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Norzan
Half-way Through My Half-life
Because it's Elvis Presley. The world can end ten times over, he will not be forgotten.
Tenebris
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He is alive as a preacher under cover
PaxVenire
Vault Dweller
Mozart is still famous 234 years later, and there are literally still movies being made about Elvis today. Artists have come and gone, but he's still iconic and recognizable off his silhouette alone, same with people like Frank Sinatra. People will be listening to their music 300 years from now so the fact that he was still recognized in 2077 makes perfect sense, especially when you take the location of Vegas into account.
If you look at them from a surface level and jump to conclusions, sure. But if you actually play the game you can see they're not treated like a joke at all. This is like saying the Legion is a joke because they wear sports equipment. The Kings literally don't even mention Elvis by name, they don't know who he is, just that he was a revered figure before the war (which is perfectly fine as Elvis' association with Vegas lives on to this day and will for many years to come) known as "The King" and that they look up to the his title and the idea of every man being "a king", a reactionary ideology born from House acting as a tyrant king and kicking the tribe off their land so he can revitalize the Strip.
I wouldn't say Elvis is a pop culture joke as he's a cultural figure of Vegas. They literally resurrected him with hologram technology so his performances live on in the city, that scene from Blade Runner 2049 isn't all fiction.
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Tenebris
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comparing mozart with elvis is like comparing one of the popes with jesus, he is considered the greatest composers in Western classical music history, his music is more tied with history than elvis
i completely fine with their backstory, but this is the thing it is just pop culture because it is vegas, i though in my first playthrough that the king is mysterious musician before the war until i learned about elvis, i was pretty disappointed how what i though was a good worldbuilding is semi pop culture joke that passed through my head
and like i said why here is no singer overshadowed him in thee 100 years before the war, no matter how iconic anyone is they become less relevant by time
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