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Walpknut
Walpknut
He also ran on a platform of racism and has made lots of veiled threats about starting wars. Then again, you like Castro....
Dr Fallout
Dr Fallout
Definition of Proto-fascist: Shit that has no relation to fascism, but is called fascism to make it seem extra bad and scary.

Every president fucks over people. I like Trump because at least he's not fucking Russians, or at least promises not to. A 'platform' of racism? That's stretching it a bit. Last time I checked, Mexicans and Muslims are not races.
zegh8578
zegh8578
Bigotry then. People keep destructing what racism actually is, down to solely and exclusively hating black people. Trump is a bigot, and so far, nothing good comes from bigotry.
Dr Fallout
Dr Fallout
No, racism is the prejudice, discrimination or antagonism of a different race, based on their characteristics. Last time I checked Donald Trump wasn't shitting on all Hispanics but the Mexicans, which aren't a race and being supported by the KKK does not equal racism. Though he is a bigot.
zegh8578
zegh8578
That's nitpickery though, again, since by strict definitions, very few people really qualify as racists. I've talked to raging racists who insisted they were not racists, because they didn't _litterally_ _believe_ black people were dumb _because_ of their skin-color. They hated blacks with a passion though. But - not racists!
zegh8578
zegh8578
Also "hispanic" isn't a race, it's a linguistic group, since it is all Spanish-speakers, from Spain to Argentina, to Peru to Mexico. See how difficult it gets?
Dr Fallout
Dr Fallout
Characteristics include mental characteristics and social characteristics that define or are commonly found in a race. Than why do they hate them?
zegh8578
zegh8578
Are you testing me? :D They hate them because hatred is sometimes a social requirement to belong in a subculture. You should know this. These things are almost never rational. They are social.
Dr Fallout
Dr Fallout
So they hate them to fit in? Than why does the 'subculture' hate them.
zegh8578
zegh8578
Dude, again, you're testing me. They hate them because they deserve the fucking hate, for being fucking black. THAT - OR - there are inherent insecurity issues present in the individuals belonging to bigoted hate-based subcultures.
zegh8578
zegh8578
Persecution, from an individual stand, has to do with self preservation and self angrandizement. "If I belong - then I am more than one! If I attack, I am no longer being attacked - I am strong, because they become weak!" This is how people attract to these groups, and the reason why traditionally, extreme-hate groups are populated by "social outcasts", untill they gain more traction.
Dr Fallout
Dr Fallout
So they hate them for being black... which is a physical characteristic... so your friends fit in by hating blacks, for being black...
Am I being trolled?
zegh8578
zegh8578
Someone's misunderstanding something............... The guy I talked about (NOT a friend, I select away racists... :D) is NOT black, he is a white-supremacist, who hates blacks, for being "inherently inferior", but he acknowledges that blackness is not the cause for this. He just believes blacks are more "ape-like"
zegh8578
zegh8578
My point is, does he hate apes? No. He hates black people because he needs to find inclusion with the only friends he has - other white supremacists.
zegh8578
zegh8578
Hate is not rational. North Norwegians hate both Lapps, Finns and Russians. Where's the rationale for that? We were never attacked by either of them, and subjucated Lapps for centuries. Why hate them on top of that?? No rational reason. It's belonging. They don't want to be some "stinking Finn-lover" among their friends, so it's an easy way to acceptance...
zegh8578
zegh8578
Someone like Trump - or any other state leader who dabbled in bigotry - can USE this... to their benefit! You cannot claim that this is all news to you, come on...
Dr Fallout
Dr Fallout
I never said he was black. I meant this racist hates blacks for being black, which is a physical characteristic, the very definition of racism. You're misunderstanding me. Racists hate blacks not because they're inferior from their skin (any racist knows that), they hate them because they're different, by the virtue of having black skin. It's quite different.
zegh8578
zegh8578
Finally.. :D yeah, and my point is that this is often difficult to really pinpoint. Who hates chinese for being slightly beige? "Chinese is not a race, it's a nationality" "Asian isn't a race, it's belonging to a continent" Racism is difficult to pinpoint, and a lot of bigotry is still "veiled" racism, imho. Poorly veiled, at that.
Dr Fallout
Dr Fallout
Continentalist?
zegh8578
zegh8578
Or just "bigot". Bigot is a good fall-back word, I just feel that it lacks a good punch. I am also fascinated by "latent" or "dormant" hatred, for example - in Norway we are highly regional. No hate! But strong regionalism. Now, in a hypothetical civil war, this would turn into hatred - so burning - so passionate! :D
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