$300-400 computer upgrades, or *gasp* a console?

Ok, so what's the future like?

So lets say I managed to upgrade to a decent system now for $400 bucks, what kind of upgrade path will I get?

AMD for awhile was sharing multiple generations of processors on the same socket, does Intel do that?

Or will I find myself two years from now needing to upgrade something to stick with the modern games?

I bought my current system in the hopes that I could upgrade to more powerful 2.3ghz AMD Athlon (Socket 754), but since its been 4-5 years since I've built my system, Socket 754 has dropped off, and finding the processors is difficult.

I'm just interested in knowing if the same thing will happen again 4 years from now?
 
Paul_cz said:
rcorporon: hmm, I just went to newegg.com, at the price was just under 500 american bucks. I would say this is pretty reasonable price for a computer that will allow him play everything on maximum for at least year and a half (my guess).Especially since he can sell those older parts, and then of course PC is much more versatile than console.

links -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128345

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052&Tpk=E7200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211282

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
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It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that in CAD, it seems that $750 is a tad steep for my liking.

I wonder if newegg.com ships to Canada.
 
Re: Ok, so what's the future like?

PHeller said:
will I find myself two years from now needing to upgrade something to stick with the modern games?
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Of course. That's just the nature of the hobby.

My first upgrade was to play Ultima 7 and I've been needing upgrades in roughly two year intervals since then.
 
Re: Ok, so what's the future like?

PHeller said:
I'm just interested in knowing if the same thing will happen again 4 years from now?
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If you can't invest 400 bucks once every four years into your hobby, find another hobby. Because even with consoles you will have to buy next-next-gen ones.
 
I realize this, but what I am asking is what Intel's are like for upgrade paths.

Like I said, AMD had a deal going where Socket AM2 processors were going to be produced for quite some time, and would share ram configurations as well.

I like to know what the future of the product is that I'm buying, ya know?
 
PHeller said:
I realize this, but what I am asking is what Intel's are like for upgrade paths.

Like I said, AMD had a deal going where Socket AM2 processors were going to be produced for quite some time, and would share ram configurations as well.

I like to know what the future of the product is that I'm buying, ya know?
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AMD has a hard time now. Intel's Nehalem is coming soon and price of Penyrn will drop significantly, just like what they did to Conroe.

Plus PC hardware's price has been dropping again. Sure there aren't many good games on it now, but remember there are plenty crappy game on console too.

Plus, you can't photoshop someone's face with a console. :ugly:
 
PHeller said:
I like to know what the future of the product is that I'm buying, ya know?
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Hmmm, lets see. If you buy new PC now, the one I suggested, you will have there chipset P45 with socket T (LGA775).

New line of Intel processors, Nehalem (aka Corei7) will use new technologies, like new memory architecture, so it will require new socket - socket B (LGA1366).

What does that mean? That either in those four years, you will have to buy new motherboard as well, or you will buy older processor that will still fit into your 775 socket (like some quadcore), or you will wait now for the release of Nehalems and postpone buying new stuff.

Quite simply I would do it as I suggested - buy the stuff now, enjoy it, and when the time comes, buy a new stuff!

Because there are no upgrade paths, especially not 4 years from now.Technologies are changing, as are sockets.
 
Will Fallout 3 be more graphics or CPU intensive?

IE, should I buy Ram, Processor, Mobo first, or graphics card?
 
If your current mobo has PCI Express, go for graphics. But prepare for the rest of your pc to be dragging it down.

But graphics card is generally the most important part in gamer's PC, fallout 3 is no exception.And I hope you have XP, because 1gig of ram is really low these days.
 
Yep, I'm rocking the XP.

I'd sooner buy a graphics card to play Fallout 3 for a few months and then upgrade slowly over the next couple of months. Don't really have the money to put $400 into a computer (or anything else) right now.

And XBOX 360 is getting cheaper everyday.
 
I running Vista, the plague that it is, 1.5 GB of RAM is barely enough to run CS:S, if ANYBODY is thinking about getting Vista, take my advice and DON'T!

that ''powerful'' setup you have won't run for a flying shart.
 
I am probably gonna skip Vista and go for Win 7 instead, but there is one thing that could convince me to skip earlier..and that is Alan Wake. I still hope they will change their mind and release it for XP as well, though.
 
PHeller said:
I'd sooner buy a graphics card to play Fallout 3 for a few months and then upgrade slowly over the next couple of months. Don't really have the money to put $400 into a computer (or anything else) right now.
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You won't be able to play Fallout 3 with your current CPU anyway. Trust me. It is already dragging down your 7600GT. I know this because before my current setup I had 7600GT with more powerfull CPU than yours and it still didn't use full potential of that card. I think you should just wait until you can get a full new machine.
I still encourage you to NOT settle for a console. I had to save quite a bit till I was able to get me a new machine, but I'm glad I did it, and in no way would I want a console now.

Paul_cz said:
there is one thing that could convince me to skip earlier..and that is Alan Wake. I still hope they will change their mind and release it for XP as well, though.
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Same here. I was really looking forward to this game and when I recently heard these rumors about it being Vista only, I was disappointed.. I really hope that is not true.. I remeber them demonstrating this game some years ago on E3 and they were running it on 7900GT card, which only supports DX9.. It's weird that all of the sudden this game would turn out to be DX10 exclusive.
 
Pyr0qvy said:
I running Vista, the plague that it is, 1.5 GB of RAM is barely enough to run CS:S, if ANYBODY is thinking about getting Vista, take my advice and DON'T!

that ''powerful'' setup you have won't run for a flying shart.
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For me Vista runs great and looks great - RAM is cheap enough not to be a limitation for even the slimmest budgets nowadays. With SP1 and updated drivers, performance in games is equal to or better than XP anyway.
 
rcorporon said:
Paul_cz said:
rcorporon: hmm, I just went to newegg.com, at the price was just under 500 american bucks. I would say this is pretty reasonable price for a computer that will allow him play everything on maximum for at least year and a half (my guess).Especially since he can sell those older parts, and then of course PC is much more versatile than console.

links -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128345

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052&Tpk=E7200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211282

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770
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It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that in CAD, it seems that $750 is a tad steep for my liking.

I wonder if newegg.com ships to Canada.
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They do, newegg.ca
 
Keep in mind that if you are buying a new graphics card you will be also needing a good power supply !
 
I bought a 700 Tagan PSU for my 8800 ultra.
Before that i had a 550 watt LC Power PSU and it was shit !
 
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