ActionTrip interviews Gavin Carter
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Right, and I'm saying that's all that was done. There was no definitive, "This game has awful death animations." it was, "Going by the information available, it has awful death animations."
Anyway, I shouldn't defend another poster, I was just getting tired of the "Don't make any judgements on the game using the information we have available, you must wait until you finished the game three time."
Anyway, I shouldn't defend another poster, I was just getting tired of the "Don't make any judgements on the game using the information we have available, you must wait until you finished the game three time."
i would love it if head shots blow ahead the enemies head, body shots the torso, etc etc.
fallout 1 + 2 had nice death animations yes, but 99% of the time you'd see the chuck of torso getting blown out by an aimed shot, not body part specific animations.
i don't see how that's "superior". especially considering you're comparing a finished game to a year + off game.
fallout 1 + 2 had nice death animations yes, but 99% of the time you'd see the chuck of torso getting blown out by an aimed shot, not body part specific animations.
i don't see how that's "superior". especially considering you're comparing a finished game to a year + off game.
We've seen polygon gibbing since Quake. Now we have polygon gibbing with volumetric particle-based blood mist. Woot. It is damn near impossible for Beth to come up with polygon gibbing so radically different from what we've seen in the last 10+ years that it will matter to anybody but konsole fanbois.
Even the death animations in Fallout had character and depth. They ranged some simply falling down to exploding into a million pieces, and hit every point between. Different death animations for different weapons was brilliant.
Gibbing was neat 10 years ago. Now it's de rigueur.
Even the death animations in Fallout had character and depth. They ranged some simply falling down to exploding into a million pieces, and hit every point between. Different death animations for different weapons was brilliant.
Gibbing was neat 10 years ago. Now it's de rigueur.
NukaColaClassic
First time out of the vault
mactbone said:Kyuu said:
NukaColaClassic said:
Do you have a problem with waiting 'till a game is finished before making silly judgements?
Here's a hint: saying 'judging by this screenshot and previous showings of polygon-based death animations in other games,NukaColaClassic said:Do you have a problem with waiting 'till a game is finished before making silly judgements?
Fallout's animations were much better' is a valid commentary not even remotely related to the straw man of 'You're judging an entire game based on nothing!' (even though Bethesda releases information that we are apparently not allowed to criticise, since the game is not out yet).
Sorrow
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I don't think it would be a good music for gaming - it's not a good background music - Emperor's/Ihsahns music is to complete to be a background music.Nevermore said:
NukaColaClassic said:
So far, the Fallout 1/2 death animations looked way better than what I saw in the demo.
I assume they'll further pretty it up, though. Hopefully fix the awkward ragdoll deaths
Ugh, that's one thing that bothers me. Poorly done ragdoll physics result in just really stupid and awkward looking corpses, flailing about like they're made of straw with no skeletal structure and weigh 10 pounds. I mean I understand it's hard to emulate how a real body would react, but if you can't get it looking somewhat decent, better to cut it out. Not to mention bad physics reactions that result in twitchiness at odd times, as was painfully bad in Oblivion.Brother None said:
Alas for the good old days with good looking art and animations. Still haven't quite achieved the same level with polygonal-renderings I think, and in some ways it's way off.
Of course, yes there is a year left to go, but animations have always been poor in Bethesda games (judging mostly by Morrowind and Oblivion of course), in my opinion.
Brother None said:
Nothing like rib cages showing, half way at least.
Oh, can nothing wrong with Oblivion characters chillin in the doorframes, just going up and down cause they're stuck, dead, in there. AWWWEWWEESOMEEEEEEESSS!
quietfanatic
Ancient One
Very good interview.
I don't like the sound of 'content creation pipeline', implying mass production of hackneyed filler after too much time spent on system building (with zillions of producers), but it is probably just production jargon that I'm unfamiliar with.
If only they have some Fallout fanatics with brains as QA people. Who am I kidding, they already know best, so why listen to detailed feedback from seventeen eleventy two? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if they have many talented people whose feedback doesn't really come out.
The free awareness of V.A.T.S. does bring greater tactical depth, although the cinematics sound like they will get tiresome almost immediately. It would be nice if we could speed it up/turn it off, but it will probably end up as a hard-coded annoyance.
Multiple solutions and consequences again sounds great, but the implementation might not be so great, as seen in the preview.
*hilarity ensues*
Again, implementation is key.
Hmm. Coupled with the sandbox thing, I'm reminded of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. To get infinite variety, there would have to be an element of randomisation, rather than merely scripting numerous fleshed-out side-quests. The voice over limits and 'running out of things to do' suggests that they might generate quest combinations and lock them in place along with level difficulty on entering an area for each playthrough. For that, I don't see how you could have multiple solutions. Consequently, he probably doesn't mean random quests but rather that there is a great deal of mutually exclusive possibilities which could be exhausted. I wouldn't mind that myself. Combat random encounters are something else entirely though.
It isn't a party game based game I recall, but mercenaries suggest it could feel like that.
The comments on soundtrack again scream Inon Zur and heavily studio produced music, so we can probably expect more painful epic orchestral type stuff, but no metal.
I don't like the sound of 'content creation pipeline', implying mass production of hackneyed filler after too much time spent on system building (with zillions of producers), but it is probably just production jargon that I'm unfamiliar with.
If only they have some Fallout fanatics with brains as QA people. Who am I kidding, they already know best, so why listen to detailed feedback from seventeen eleventy two? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if they have many talented people whose feedback doesn't really come out.
The free awareness of V.A.T.S. does bring greater tactical depth, although the cinematics sound like they will get tiresome almost immediately. It would be nice if we could speed it up/turn it off, but it will probably end up as a hard-coded annoyance.
Multiple solutions and consequences again sounds great, but the implementation might not be so great, as seen in the preview.
*hilarity ensues*
Again, implementation is key.
Hmm. Coupled with the sandbox thing, I'm reminded of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. To get infinite variety, there would have to be an element of randomisation, rather than merely scripting numerous fleshed-out side-quests. The voice over limits and 'running out of things to do' suggests that they might generate quest combinations and lock them in place along with level difficulty on entering an area for each playthrough. For that, I don't see how you could have multiple solutions. Consequently, he probably doesn't mean random quests but rather that there is a great deal of mutually exclusive possibilities which could be exhausted. I wouldn't mind that myself. Combat random encounters are something else entirely though.
It isn't a party game based game I recall, but mercenaries suggest it could feel like that.
The comments on soundtrack again scream Inon Zur and heavily studio produced music, so we can probably expect more painful epic orchestral type stuff, but no metal.
hmm...the question is ,what kind of Ambient music are they using ? sure ,you also had a lot of ambient music in Oblivion !!!
He is simply too old for BM these days .
I wouldn't be surprised if he did !
He is simply too old for BM these days .
Literacy_Hooligan
First time out of the vault
Great... i'm going to be an elf
No, wait, an orc perhaps. An orc barbarian, yep, no magic, just hitting and slashing with my sledgehammer So VATS is "real-time with pause" with targeting with slow mode (bullet time). IMHO most players will hate VATS because for harcore players it have not enough "tactical options" (vide F1/2 and Jagged Alliance 1/2) and for all other it have - in general- to much "tactical options" .
btw. turning on VATS will (maybe) slow playing (for young players) too - loading of VATS interface will take some time.
Gavin Carter said:
See? Now you all know what the difference is.
I would prefer if they did a 3D-turn-based Incubation-style thing, but I can live with V.A.T.S. if I don't have to dodge in real-time...
Cold Zer0 said:
I demand a diplomatic path!