Age of Decadence Goodness is Back

[thefalloutfan]

Well nice visuals never hurt anyone. I suppose there will be mods to fix that though. I mean in 2008 you'd except better graphics. Well I'll comment on the game after more info is released, won't call it excellent by just looking at some screens and one video.

Hopefully it will be good, the more games the better. Though why haven't I seen this game anywhere else except on here and the other time I stumbled upon it by chance

 

[Morbus]

A big part of it is how Morbus delivers the news. "Decadence Goodness is back"... Seriously.

Yeah, I'm a fanboy. I'll refrain from doing that in the future. I don't see a problem in doing it, but people complain so... I think I do it to counterbalance with Fallout 3 or something. Everybody goes "more Fallout 3 epicness" all around so why can't I go like that for AoD? Especially when nobody else is...



Seriously, I'll watch my bias in the future.

 

[FeelTheRads]

won't call it excellent by just looking at some screens and one video.

Yet, you're a fan of Fallout (3) by just looking at some screenshots and a couple of videos.

I mean in 2008 you'd except better graphics.

You'd also expect better gameplay which this game seems to offer, as opposed to oh, let's say Fallout 3.

 

[Morbus]

Well nice visuals never hurt anyone.

Actually they do. The other day some guy was complaining AoD was being made for graphic whores... Seriously.

won't call it excellent by just looking at some screens and one video.

I don't think anyone is calling it excellent. I'm not, at least. I think it's going to be one of the best games ever, though, but that's because of what I read about the game, not about the screens and the videos.

Though why haven't I seen this game anywhere else except on here and the other time I stumbled upon it by chance

The watch newsposts about it more frequently than us. GameBashee also newsposts about AoD, the codex too. You haven't seen it anywhere else probably because the only gamesites you visit are NMA, a couple of Gamespot-like sites and a handful of unrelated gaming blogs?

It's an independent (!) computer (!) classic role-playing game (!) with turn based (!) combat, lots of text (!), without handholding (!) or pretty graphics (!), made by an independent team that spent less that 20K on it (!) and has little to no money to spend on marketing (!). It's logical that few people even know of it, so it's logical that few places newspost about it. Right?

 

[Pope Viper]

I'm sick of the focus being on "next gen graphics", at the sake of gameplay. Not to mention that it's ridiculous to have to upgrade PCs every 3 years.

And while the console crowd doesn't have to deal with that, it just means that develoopers are dumbing down controls and the gaming experience to cater to them.

 

[Morbus]

And while the console crowd doesn't have to deal with that

They don't. Ahah. They have to buy a new console every 4 years if they want to play all the new gmaes they want... It's pretty much the same, only in their case, there are less games, games are more expensive and so is are the "upgrades".

 

[Public]

Well nice visuals never hurt anyone. I suppose there will be mods to fix that though. I mean in 2008 you'd except better graphics. Well I'll comment on the game after more info is released, won't call it excellent by just looking at some screens and one video.

Hopefully it will be good, the more games the better. Though why haven't I seen this game anywhere else except on here and the other time I stumbled upon it by chance

We are living in the world today, where very good and interesting projects are less known to people than mass-produced-pop-simple-games. That is why graphics in this game (and in many other independant games) are so old-looking. They don't have money dude! They'd rather focus on the story and dialog than graphics.

The same thing is with music and movies. Stupid pop-industry!!

 

[VDweller]

Secondly, I get a manipulative feeling from Vince's answers.

Based on what? My statements about the game? About TB combat? About dealing with fans? These are facts, not PR bullshit. Anyone who followed the game from the beginning can easily verify everything I said.

He promises a lot, certainly, but he acknowledges that, and to his credit he tries/does show more to back things up than, I don't know, Bethesda.

Everything that I've promised was shown and proven. Credibility is important and there is only way to earn it.

Well nice visuals never hurt anyone. I suppose there will be mods to fix that though. I mean in 2008 you'd except better graphics.

Yes, I too can't wait to play Fallout 3!!!

The watch newsposts about it more frequently than us. GameBashee also newsposts about AoD, the codex too

And RPG Vault, and PC Gamer, and several French mags who even put our combat video on their disks that come magazines, and GameShark, and Scorpia, and Rock Paper Shotgun, and a bunch of smaller sites. I have more interview & article requests than I can handle at the moment.

 

[Brother None]

And RPG Vault, and PC Gamer, and several French mags who even put our combat video on their disks that come magazines, and GameShark, and Scorpia, and Rock Paper Shotgun, and a bunch of smaller sites. I have more interview & article requests than I can handle at the moment.

So I noticed

*gives VD the death-glare*

 

[VDweller]

It's coming, I swear to God!

*drops on his knees

No, I didn't. Honest. I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!!

 

[Morbus]

The same thing is with music and movies. Stupid pop-industry!!

Not really. They don't have to spend money to make crappy shiny music. That's what sells, but they don't have to spend more money on it for it to sell.

Still, the best music is not know to the masses, most of the time.

 

[SpeaK]

Based on what? My statements about the game? About TB combat? About dealing with fans? These are facts, not PR bullshit. Anyone who followed the game from the beginning can easily verify everything I said.

It's more about tiny tiny things here and there, very hard to explain, as it's mostly just an intuitive feeling.

But hey, it might be that what you're saying in the interviews just sounds so good I can't believe it's true.

In any case, I meant no offence. Being manipulative is not bad in itself, if you're honest and use it well.

Now on a second thought, the feeling might also be coming from the questions asked; at least the quoted ones look like the interviewer knows exactly what's the best stuff to talk about to PROMOTE the game, especially now since Fallout 3 is coming out and looking like shit especially in the aspects discussed in the interview.

Yeah, I'm a fanboy. I'll refrain from doing that in the future. I don't see a problem in doing it, but people complain so...

It seems like the interviews have enough good stuff in them to make people see "wow this is nice". When you add that stuff in the newspost itself, it's like... I just don't see the need for the newspost to promote the game, when the interview is doing it well enough already. It feels like overdoing it in a way.

 

[Public]

The same thing is with music and movies. Stupid pop-industry!!

Not really. They don't have to spend money to make crappy shiny music. That's what sells, but they don't have to spend more money on it for it to sell.

Still, the best music is not know to the masses, most of the time.

You didn't get my point.

Music- independant musiacians who are a true musians (they create, play, do the real awesome stuff for themselves) are less popular/famous than those pop-thingies made by corporations/record lables (like Britney Spears who doesn't even know how to sing, is just there to be there and the music is made by someone else, even the lyrics).

Movies- movies are mainly about good look. When there is someone with an idea for a great scenario for a very deep movie, the company would spend money to another action-horro-slash-blood-violence movie (most pop ones), rather than on the guy with an ideal scenarion (maybe one of the deepest ones).

Got it now?

 

[Per]

This is his side project, a chance for him to blow off steam and say whatever anonymously, basically... since his real job is with some big company (I think) in advertising, and 'Vince' is just a pseudonym.

Hello... Pete.

 

[thefalloutfan]

Actually they do. The other day some guy was complaining AoD was being made for graphic whores... Seriously.

Probably a very old guy

We are living in the world today, where very good and interesting projects are less known to people than mass-produced-pop-simple-games. That is why graphics in this game (and in many other independant games) are so old-looking. They don't have money dude! They'd rather focus on the story and dialog than graphics.

The same thing is with music and movies. Stupid pop-industry!!

I know what you mean, in fact I've never heard of that company making AoD. Well I hope it will be a good game, there are some things I think I might find uninteresting, but I can give a fair comment/review after I've played the game.

I don't think anyone is calling it excellent. I'm not, at least. I think it's going to be one of the best games ever, though, but that's because of what I read about the game, not about the screens and the videos.

If it is that great then it'd be awesome

You haven't seen it anywhere else probably because the only gamesites you visit are NMA, a couple of Gamespot-like sites and a handful of unrelated gaming blogs?

Haha spot on. And a couple of other forums some unrelated to gaming.

Yet, you're a fan of Fallout (3) by just looking at some screenshots and a couple of videos.

Yeah but much more screens and videos, and lots of hands on previews

You'd also expect better gameplay which this game seems to offer, as opposed to oh, let's say Fallout 3.

Subjective Since I'm liking FO3 I think the gameplay is just sweet, obviously from just the videos and previews, wish I had a hands on preview myself

 

[Morbus]

Actually they do. The other day some guy was complaining AoD was being made for graphic whores... Seriously.

Probably a very old guy

Don't think so. He was from codex though, so that might explain a few things. However, AoD was practically born there too, so...

I know what you mean, in fact I've never heard of that company making AoD.

They formed it because they were making AoD.

I don't think anyone is calling it excellent. I'm not, at least. I think it's going to be one of the best games ever, though, but that's because of what I read about the game, not about the screens and the videos.

If it is that great then it'd be awesome

Yes, it would. But remember, people don't always like great games. They like what they like, which may or may not be your case. I for one can think of quite a few great games I dislike.

You haven't seen it anywhere else probably because the only gamesites you visit are NMA, a couple of Gamespot-like sites and a handful of unrelated gaming blogs?

Haha spot on. And a couple of other forums some unrelated to gaming.

It wasn't hard to figure it out.

Yet, you're a fan of Fallout (3) by just looking at some screenshots and a couple of videos.

Yeah but much more screens and videos, and lots of hands on previews

You're right about those hands-on previews (although they are all bought and bride all the way to hell so it doesn't really matter), but not about the screens: http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php?topic=341.0

You'd also expect better gameplay which this game seems to offer, as opposed to oh, let's say Fallout 3.

Subjective

Although "quality" is by definition "subjective", gameplay isn't. You can't expect to stamp that excuse (because that's what it is) on everything and get away with it. Gameplay quality is by no means dependent on people's tastes and likings. That doesn't mean we have the information to make an opinion about which game's better gameplay, though.

 

[thefalloutfan]

Sure sure whatever you say

I'll be looking out for more information about AoD. It might be interesting if I look past some things. Q2 next year would be a good release that

 

[Tigranes]

Now on a second thought, the feeling might also be coming from the questions asked; at least the quoted ones look like the interviewer knows exactly what's the best stuff to talk about to PROMOTE the game, especially now since Fallout 3 is coming out and looking like shit especially in the aspects discussed in the interview.

A disadvantage of email interviews is that you can't prepare contingencies and ask questions based on what they answer. As such, I need to know their position pretty clearly before I go in. That doesn't mean asking questions to which I've written the answers, that means latching on areas which I suspect he has strong feelings about or are important to Age of Decadence. I'd have liked to ask him more in-depth questions about trends in RPGs/games in this decade and so forth, but for various reasons I couldn't/didn't this time.

The fact that Fallout 3 manages to be shit in particular areas didn't bear into my thinking, but that's more FO3's own fault isn't it? If you get a 3 in gymnastics you can't sit there and complain that other people are getting 8, the unsporting crabs.

Anyway, best source of AoD info is the forum itself. Theres actually a ton of stuff there, like the LP threads. And if you ask a question there and Vince says he can't tell you, then you won't get that info anywhere else anyway.

 

[Morbus]

A disadvantage of email interviews is that you can't prepare contingencies and ask questions based on what they answer.

You could do as I do and send a batch of questions first, and then another batch, and then maybe another one finish the thing.

 

[Bates]

No, I didn't. Honest. I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!!

"Oh Jake. Jake honey" Love that movie, btw!

Just have to say, that AoD is the *ONLY* game I'm looking forward to this year... Too many "Immersion" filled graphics wh0hre games with no soul in them coming this year, AoD is the only game that is a real rpg in my book.

Keep up the good work Vince!