American Chinese food: Not really Chinese

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by Starseeker, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. Starseeker

    Starseeker Vault Senior Citizen

    Jul 25, 2003
    http://www.ted.com/talks/jennifer_8_lee_looks_for_general_tso.html

    An awesome talk about localization and globalization of Chinese food. One thing that really surprised me is that there are more Chinese restaurants than all those fast food restaurants combined. I knew most of it before, since I had to explain most of this to all the questions people asked me when I was studying in the US. This is still hilarious. :lol:
     
  2. EnigmaGrey

    EnigmaGrey First time out of the vault

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    Sep 28, 2011
    I think I'm going to buy some Canadianized pseudo-Japanese food labeled as Chinese, thanks to you, Starseeker.

    Television Ontario produces a similar series of lectures as this TED does: http://bigideas.tvo.org/
     
  3. eom

    eom Vault Senior Citizen
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    Feb 16, 2004
    I guess that was pretty good in spite of the nervous presentation, and minority empowerment whine.
    I just had some savory chicken for lunch yesterday,as a matter of fact -- totally awesome.
     
  4. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Is Colombian Chinese Food Chinese then?
     
  5. Richwizard

    Richwizard Carbon Dated and Proud
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    Jan 18, 2010
    Some American Chinese restaurants, run by real Chinese families, used to have "secret" menus for Chinese customers consisting of native Chinese cuisine. They didn't offer it to white customers because they didn't think they would like it. That has been changing a little in recent years as some American tastes have been expanding.
     
  6. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Pretty funny, but that kind of thing goes both ways. I've been to some pretty laughable western (Italian, Mexican, American) restaurants in Tokyo that were either heavily localized (natto spaghetti) or just plain misguided (Mexican Dog - a hot dog wrapped in a tortilla). The decor too is a pretty odd mish-mash. Strangely enough I would say to myself "so this is how Chinese people feel when they go to American Chinese restaurants."

    That being said, Japanese Chinese food is the best - gyoza, ramen, etc. Of course Japanese yakiniku is king.

    Don't think I've ever had chop suey in my life.
     
  7. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    Pretty sure Nandos tones down it's Peri Peri sauce for us limey southerners, the medium strength we used in a home made meal was a lot hotter than the stuff in the restaurant.

    Would be interesting to see what the Japanese do with German food. Or Scandinavian... lutefisk ramen?
     
  8. DarkCorp

    DarkCorp So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Oct 27, 2003
    A lot of caucasian acquaintances of mine I have given traditional chinese food and got a luke warm reception. Dim Sum is pretty asian but white folks really arn't into stuff like chicken feet, or rice soup, cow stomach/intestines?

    Thing is if were talking mainland china, traditional chinese food was pretty much damned near nothing thanks to the insane way Mao ran things. I really don't know how much he had to do with the chinese nuclear program but it seems so far a whole lotta chinese had to die to make those sacrifices. For example: average chinese folks starving to death while food shipments were being sent to N. Korea or the vietnamese during their respective wars. It seems otherwise everything went to the soviets to compensate the soviets once Mao decided Stalinism wasn't good for China.
     
  9. eom

    eom Vault Senior Citizen
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    Feb 16, 2004

    lolz

    people don't get any whiter than the scots.

    ps

    btw, chicken feet and intestines are poor people food, not chinese food.
    I'm sure you can find all kinds of american blacks that will eat up your floor sweepings.
     
  10. Sabirah

    Sabirah Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Jul 10, 2011
    That's true for most foreign restaurants.

    I think us Indians are the only ones that didn't change our food too much to accommodate firang taste.
     
  11. Alphadrop

    Alphadrop A right proper chap.

    Aug 21, 2008
    Might want to do some reasearch into that Sab, the influence of the British Empire changed a lot of the food in India to cater for Westerners tastes.
    Most modern day curries for one.
     
  12. Sabirah

    Sabirah Water Chip? Been There, Done That

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    Jul 10, 2011
    Damn British had to change everything. One of the most evil things in history IMO was the occupation of India by the British
     
  13. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    I consider it my duty as an American to have no respect for other culture's cooking traditions. That's why I mix soba with vietnamese rice noodles and roll teriyaki burritos. I've also made spring rolls with rice wrappers and filled them with refried beans. I'm...ah...still working on that recipe. It's promising though, I swear!
     
  14. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    Yeah, I had beef curry last night, which probably isn't kosher. Can't really comment on what faranghi eat, klingons neither.