Anonymous -the Film

Ben

Look, Ma! Two Heads!
For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(film)


Took my girlfriend to this film because she was required to see it for her Elizabethan Literature course.

It is not Anonymous like the internet troll group but the premise is that the Earl of Oxford was an illegitimate son of Queen Elizabeth, had an illegitimate child with Queen Elizabeth and wrote all of the plays attributed to William Shakesphere but published them under Shakesphere to protect his anonymity.

As a historian, this film is a disaster. It claims that Queen Elizabeth had multiple children but none of them with Robert Dudley (who was the only person suspected of it). Her advisors, the Cecil family, were part of a plot to put their family in power using these illegitimate children but later sold out to King James. The Cecils were portrayed like Snively Whiplash, conveniently leaving out that they were responsible for her success.

The Earl of Essex (who lead a revolt) was portrayed as a victim of circumstance when British Soldiers fired on a pro-Essex mob who had just seen Richard III (which was not out at that time). In reality, no one joined him because they knew that treason was death.

Shakesphere himself was a bumbling idiot who esentially sold his name to protect Oxford's anonymity. Oh and King James, the Scottsman who survived about 10 plots to overthrow him, was portrayed as a long haired flamer

tl;dr version: It is a historical terd, don't see it
 
A film produced and directed Roland Emmerich is complete poppycock?

I'm shocked. Truly, truly shocked.

I hadn't heard of this whole authorship question on Shakespeare before, though. It sounds like your typical nonsensical conspiracy theory.
 
The whole authorship of Shakespear (or many variants thereof) plays is pretty common among literary circles, however the Oxford one is especially stupid because he died before some of the plays he supposedly wrote were written.
 
It is actually a theory that has been around for a long time. I don't know about the movies supposed accuracy and all that, but this is not a new idea of thought, so do not discount it based solely upon the movie. If I am remembering correct they theoretically attributed his work to a man named Francis Bacon. Considering how little is actually known about Shakespeare it is not a crazy idea.
 
Alphadrop said:
The whole authorship of Shakespear (or many variants thereof) plays is pretty common among literary circles, however the Oxford one is especially stupid because he died before some of the plays he supposedly wrote were written.

They covered ass on that because on his death bed, Oxford handed Benjamin Johnson (a contemporary playwright) a stack of plays to publish 'in a few years'. While being pursued by police, he stashed them in the globe before it was burned. They were believed destroyed but survived due to being in a metal trunk and presumably fell into Billy's hands.
 
Yes, and then the lizard people came and rewrote them, under the name of an illegitimate child of Genghis Khan and Catherina the Great in order to protect their anonymity, except they wrote them under the name of a certain "Donald Trump".

In all seriousness, though. "Let's hope aliens use MacOS" Emmerich is hardly a guy to care for accuracy (or quality) in his scenarios. "It's the mood that counts".

Hah.
 
Independence Day, Day after Tomorrow, and 2012 were all good movies if you take them for what they are: Stupid little action/adventure movies. To try and analyze them is pointless.

But I will say when I saw he directed Anonymous, I was like "What the fuck, seriously?". Lets just I didn't have high hopes for this movie. If I decide to watch it, I'll wait for it to go on demand or on TV.
 
lol, the so called "Anti-Stratfordians" have been at it for what, almost a 100+ years?

I am curious as to why they choose Oxford as their candidate, and not Bacon. I mean, I am not sure it adds much credence to your cause if your first major advocate is named Looney. :lol:
 
thegaresexperience said:
Independence Day, Day after Tomorrow, and 2012 were all good movies if you take them for what they are: Stupid(...)
House of the Dead, Alone in the Dark and Far Cry were all good movies if you take them for what they are: bad movies.
 
Buxbaum666 said:
thegaresexperience said:
Independence Day, Day after Tomorrow, and 2012 were all good movies if you take them for what they are: Stupid(...)
House of the Dead, Alone in the Dark and Far Cry were all good movies if you take them for what they are: bad movies.

House of the Dead was hilarious, it's the only reason I watch it. But then again the games weren't that great either, they'd played alright but they were essentially B-Horror movies. So in context, it was that bad.

Alone in the Dark just sucked and I've never seen Far Cry
 
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