are there many dutch people here ?

Here's something I've been wondering about for a while now.... Are The Netherlands simply Holland, or do they also include the surrounding countries?
 
The Netherlands also include Friesland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Geldre.

I think.
 
Mikey said:
Jebus said:
The Netherlands also include Friesland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Geldre.

I think.
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In English they are....?
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Friesland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Geldre. :wink:

call them whatever you want: states, provinces, districs etc., but not "countries "

EDIT: Zeeland is nice... especially Walcheren
 
Mikey said:
Jebus said:
The Netherlands also include Friesland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Geldre.

I think.
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In English they are....?
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Friesland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Geldre.

I doubt they have English names. Maybe Friesland, Sealand, North-Brabant and Geldre, but I somehow doubt that.

Well, yes, the Netherlands consist of more than one province. Most people only know Holland tho, so they usually don't recognise the differences.

Just like most foreigners think Germany was all like Bavaria although Bavaria is only a big district in the south (and a wee bit of an attention whore as well).
 
SuAside said:
but those can't be considered countries imo ;)
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I thought he said "counties".

My bad. They're provinces - although they were something of independent countries, once.

But that was long before the Netherlands were founded as a nation.
 
Jebus said:
The Netherlands also include Friesland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Geldre.

I think.
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And once the reincarnation of Vlaams Block takes over, Flemland. :!:

I'm part Dutch. Much of my ancestry is Huegenot (French, I know, even name is French in origin), most of them spent quite a while in Amsterdam before going to Niew Amsterdam.
 
Nieuw Amsterdam, CCR. ;)

That said, jesus bloody christ, why did no-one actualy say "there are way more provinces than that"? 12 to be exact. Noord-Holland, Zuid-Holland, Zeeland, Noord-Brabant, Limburg, Utrecht, Overijssel, Friesland, Groningen, Drenthe, Gelderland and the now some 30-years old Flevoland. Yay.
Holland is Noord-Holland and Zuid-Holland stuffed together, but in foreign countries Holland is usually used to refer to the entire country, and we Dutchies tend to do that too, because it's too annoying for most to say "Netherlands" or "Die Niederla(trema)nde", or "Les Pays Bas" or whatever.
 
Sander said:
jesus bloody christ, why did no-one actualy say "there are way more provinces than that"?
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because we can't be arsed to look up the exact number... who cares anyway?
 
I don't even know how many districts Germany has (16?) or which they are. How could I possibly care about the Netherlands?
 
Ashmo said:
I don't even know how many districts Germany has (16?) or which they are. How could I possibly care about the Netherlands?
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Dude.

16.

Even I know them, and I'm a fucking German 1 student in High School.


Damn you're freaky Dutch spelling, Sander!
 
Yeah, but apart from the third grade in elementary school we never covered Germany in class. Our entire geography lessons revolved around the topics "Mass starvings", "Overpopulation", "Obesity", "Global Warming" and "The world sucks" with main focusses on Asia, Africa and the USA. And we only had geography for four grades because of the lack of teachers in Germany.

Not like our history lessons were much better. After covering the 16th century we jumped to the industrialisation, made a short excourse to the topic "Why Nazis are evil and we should be ashamed of being German and say 'Sorry' whenever a foreigner looks at us" aka the Third Reich. After that we directly jumped to the Cold War which we only covered in details (I didn't take history in grade 13 where the focus would have been "You're German so be fucking sorry about your history" aka WW2 tho).

And according to our English books the typical English speaking person looks like some weird kid from the early 90s and is called Sue.

And people seriously wonder why our school system sucks. I've been to the highest level of school we have and yet I've been near-wittness to some kids beating each other up with baseball bats in front of the school.
 
Ashmo said:
I've been to the highest level of school we have and yet I've been near-wittness to some kids beating each other up with baseball bats in front of the school.
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Me too.. and three pupils from my former school even killed another pupil. One of them was the son of a teacher.
Someone here heard about Hendrik Möbus?
 
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