oh, also... we have a tree hanging over our driveway where birds like to nest. And, these birds shit a lot. These birds also have HUGE poop and BERRY poop. The poop doesn't do anything to my dad's or my car, but they eat right through my mom's paintjob. She called Toyota and they said they can't do anything about it.
Automatic or Manual transmission
- Thread starter MadDog
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MadDog have you looked at the price for an import lately? I don't know, maybe things are different out there in Jersey but most places I look you can get a bran new well-equipped import for less than 30K. I am willing to bet your mothers Toyota like most is VERY solid. My mechanic ONLY works on Subaru's with the exception of a Toyota because both cars are constructed with the same craftsmanship and a lot of the same ideas.
Phil the Nuka-Cola Dude
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
MadDog said:
Could you fit one of those tent-like car housing things under that tree?
Ugly John
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Settle this way... buy a Mazda 3 with a semi automatic gearbox, it also comes standard with a cd-mp3 player.
you get the best of both worlds, automatic for traffic and stick for the chicks (if that works for you
)
over here
GM : Grosse Marde (big piece of shit)
FORD : Ferraille Ordure Rebut Dechet (Junk,crap,more crap, garbagge)
Still some days i miss my old '89 VW fox wolfburg, that car could take a beating and keep on rollin' at last i didn't change the oil for the last 5 years. In the end the engine brackets gave and teh engine "sunk" kinking everything else under the hood.
They just don't make cars like this anymore (literally) it was built with extra parts from golfs and jettas and some other audi car. When you lookied under the hood, some parts had both logos (VW and audi) some part only VW and some parts only Audi.
you get the best of both worlds, automatic for traffic and stick for the chicks (if that works for you
)over here
GM : Grosse Marde (big piece of shit)
FORD : Ferraille Ordure Rebut Dechet (Junk,crap,more crap, garbagge)
Still some days i miss my old '89 VW fox wolfburg, that car could take a beating and keep on rollin' at last i didn't change the oil for the last 5 years. In the end the engine brackets gave and teh engine "sunk" kinking everything else under the hood.
They just don't make cars like this anymore (literally) it was built with extra parts from golfs and jettas and some other audi car. When you lookied under the hood, some parts had both logos (VW and audi) some part only VW and some parts only Audi.
Demonslayer
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
clercqer said:
he said what you need to know. personally i prefer manual taking a boost to redline woow
Automatic, what is that? Food? Ahh..now I remember, but that was for puss....?s.
Manuals baby, manuals.
More control, probably a good idea when the traffic more than normally dangerous.
Active driving. Keeps you awake and basically you have some idea of your surroundings (no throwing milkshakes out of the window).
Race. Race. Race. Race.
Impress the ladies....but then again....getting a blowjob might be more dangerous...but...it?s a cobalt
Takes more gas, expensive, has a life of it?s own (old ones) and it?s not as fast as the manual (unless your a shitstick with the knob).
________
Vaporizer Wholesaler
Manuals baby, manuals.
More control, probably a good idea when the traffic more than normally dangerous.
Active driving. Keeps you awake and basically you have some idea of your surroundings (no throwing milkshakes out of the window).
Race. Race. Race. Race.
Impress the ladies....but then again....getting a blowjob might be more dangerous...but...it?s a cobalt
Takes more gas, expensive, has a life of it?s own (old ones) and it?s not as fast as the manual (unless your a shitstick with the knob).
________
Vaporizer Wholesaler
WaterGirl said:
The band "Cake" did a song called "Stick Shifts and Safety Belts" about just that problem. There is a point to this. I used to drive around with my ladyfriend practically *in* my lap. One hand on her, the other on the wheel.
But, truly, if you enjoy driving, then get the stick. If you do not enjoy driving, and simply view the car as transportation, get a larger, more comfortable car with a Hydro-matic on the column. You have a pretty big budget for a car so if you buy a used car you can get a damn nice one.
Lord, exactly where do you live that you think about >20,000 is a big budget for a car? That only gives options in the US to small economy cars.
20,000 - 30,000 roomier sedans, somewhat sports cars
30,000 - 40,000 sports cars, bigger sedans, almost rich cars
50,000 + the expensive toys like Corvettes, Mercedes Benz, BMW, etc.
20,000 - 30,000 roomier sedans, somewhat sports cars
30,000 - 40,000 sports cars, bigger sedans, almost rich cars
50,000 + the expensive toys like Corvettes, Mercedes Benz, BMW, etc.
Yeah, if its an issue of holding hands and making out, remember that it's a Cobalt after all, which means you'll be almost sitting in each others laps to begin with.
All things being equal: gas cost, handling, repair costs, up front costs, joy of driving or agony of stop and go, I suggest the manual MD. Besides even if you're in traffic I find that shifting is almost unconcious, and you may come to appreciate the additional control you have for when you start and stop alot (starting in 2nd gear for example).
All things being equal: gas cost, handling, repair costs, up front costs, joy of driving or agony of stop and go, I suggest the manual MD. Besides even if you're in traffic I find that shifting is almost unconcious, and you may come to appreciate the additional control you have for when you start and stop alot (starting in 2nd gear for example).
I think that it's a pretty damn good budget for a guy your age. Here are some examples of cars you get brand new for roughly 20k US in Sweden:MadDog said:
I dunno what it's like in the states, but in Sweden, any teenager with a drivers license would kill for a car in this price range, since parents are mega-cheap in Sweden no matter how rich they are.
My Mum offered to buy me that Peugeot 206 CC next year. I politely declined and asked for a kickass computer instead.
Rev. Layle
A Smooth-Skin
Man... seems like a lot of people like to drive and drive fast (or least in style)
i always buy compact and automatic cars.
cars annoy me - but they do get me from point A to B everyday for work and visiting people.
i don't mind going for a cross country drive from time to time - but honestly, i'm lazy. when im driving i, just want it to go.
i always buy compact and automatic cars.
cars annoy me - but they do get me from point A to B everyday for work and visiting people.
i don't mind going for a cross country drive from time to time - but honestly, i'm lazy. when im driving i, just want it to go.
So I guess it must be new, Maddog. There are lots of nice options still, but for that much money I could get a couple used cars! And nice ones, too. For example a 2000 Land Rover Range Rover County (long body) with just about every conceivable option blue books at $18,230. A 2001 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan checks out for $19,035. Nice, nice cars IMHO.
If new is the way you must go, check out the Chrysler PT Cruiser. Chrysler is a high-mark name and the car is a head-turner. I went on there web site and configured a PT Cruiser Touring Car with every option it had (except the moon roof which is mutually exclusive with the "light group", and the 6-disc CD player which is mutually exclusive with the Cassette deck) right down to a block heater, and it came in at $19,527.
You'd have to go slightly over 20,000 to get a Chevy Malibu with a V-6 (The best car in its class in terms of both fuel economy AND performance. Chevy hit the nail on the head with that one) but according to Car & Driver the HHR deserves a look and one with nearly all the options goes for $19,540.
A SuperSport Cobalt Sedan goes for $19,500. I think at this point it's time to go to the car dealership and drive the Cobalt, the HHR, the PT Cruiser, and anything else sitting around that you can afford.
PT Cruiser
Chevrolet HHR
Cobalt SS Sedan
If new is the way you must go, check out the Chrysler PT Cruiser. Chrysler is a high-mark name and the car is a head-turner. I went on there web site and configured a PT Cruiser Touring Car with every option it had (except the moon roof which is mutually exclusive with the "light group", and the 6-disc CD player which is mutually exclusive with the Cassette deck) right down to a block heater, and it came in at $19,527.
You'd have to go slightly over 20,000 to get a Chevy Malibu with a V-6 (The best car in its class in terms of both fuel economy AND performance. Chevy hit the nail on the head with that one) but according to Car & Driver the HHR deserves a look and one with nearly all the options goes for $19,540.
A SuperSport Cobalt Sedan goes for $19,500. I think at this point it's time to go to the car dealership and drive the Cobalt, the HHR, the PT Cruiser, and anything else sitting around that you can afford.
PT Cruiser
Chevrolet HHR
Cobalt SS Sedan
welsh
Junkmaster
To be perfectly honest, though, the difference between american and foreign built cars is beginning to lose meaning.
If you buy a certain GM that comes with a German built engine, a Japanese exhaust system, a Swedish suspension, Taiwanese and Malaysian parts- you have basically a Mutt.
That said, last time they tried to market a US car that was supposed to be exception to the rule (American cars are low quality) was the Saturn. But Saturn created a cult- fine but as soon as the warranty ended the car fell apart.
My next car- if used, is probably going to be German (a used BMW) or perhaps a Volvo or a Saab. One of those two sells cars off the lot and they will even fly you to the factory to pick up the car, and then two weeks to buzz around Europe.
Get a stick.
If you buy a certain GM that comes with a German built engine, a Japanese exhaust system, a Swedish suspension, Taiwanese and Malaysian parts- you have basically a Mutt.
That said, last time they tried to market a US car that was supposed to be exception to the rule (American cars are low quality) was the Saturn. But Saturn created a cult- fine but as soon as the warranty ended the car fell apart.
My next car- if used, is probably going to be German (a used BMW) or perhaps a Volvo or a Saab. One of those two sells cars off the lot and they will even fly you to the factory to pick up the car, and then two weeks to buzz around Europe.
Get a stick.
st0lve
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
what loosers doesn't know how to drive manual?
automatic is boring, all the fun about a car is just gone.
automatic is boring, all the fun about a car is just gone.
Rev. Layle
A Smooth-Skin
cars are never fun anyways - *shrug* - i guess after using them to drive around the last 18 years, it's just another silly tool i have to sink $$ into everyday
Ugly John
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
The only advantage i now see to stick shift rather than automatic is the ability to downshift. Other than that forget about the sporty drive while you are stuck in traffic, women don't care (i said women not girls) what type of transmission you use.
MD, and by experience i can tell you that it's easier to get a blowjob while driving with an automatic since you don't have to shift all the time.
MD, and by experience i can tell you that it's easier to get a blowjob while driving with an automatic since you don't have to shift all the time.