Best Mad Max Film?

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Hassknecht said:
True, but on the other hand I think you couldn't do the first two movies today without some backlash from the LGBTQ community. I mean, the good guys are all heteronormative while all the baddies are somewhat androgynous and depicted as sexual deviants?
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True, true, that's a good point. The baddies are androgynous ruled by a masculine dude. Yeah, I could see the backlash.

Crossfire said:
That's a good point.

Then in Fury Road, all of the villains are hyper-masculine male barbarians and the only community of people who didn't lose their humanity are women.

Read into that what you may.
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Well, not really. Sure, there are hyper-masculine doods, but not all - most of the warboys are skinny as fuck, and Immortan Joe himself isn't exactly an athlete. The only masculine guy I remember was that son of his, Ruck or something.
I could be wrong tho.
 
Atomkilla said:
Well, not really. Sure, there are hyper-masculine doods, but not all - most of the warboys are skinny as fuck, and Immortan Joe himself isn't exactly an athlete. The only masculine guy I remember was that son of his, Ruck or something.
I could be wrong tho.
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The War Boys were by no means JACKED, but I distinctly remember them having a kind of lean muscularity that would make sense for savage post-apocalyptic warriors.

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Besides, I would argue that masculinity isn't just defined by a person's physique. But, by a host of different qualities.

Let me just mention that I enjoyed Fury Road very much. I must've seen it about half a dozen times by now. But, lets not kid ourselves, there's definitely a pro-feminist current that runs through the movie. However, I also think that it's unfair to judge the quality of a piece of art based on whether or not you like it's message, intended or otherwise. Judge it by the merits of it's craftsmanship and move on. The worst thing you can do is take it personally. But, that's just my philosophy.
 
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I never understood the "feminism" critique (nor praise). I did notice where it came from, but I didn't watch the film with the set of mind that I have to find me some "possible" hidden social messages. Who actually gives a bloody fuck about that in a movie like this? If I try to (forcibly) relate to something like that I still can't understand it since while there might be some feminist undertones there, the rest of the movie is hyper masculine to the point that you can almost smell the gasoline through the TV. But like I said, I don't understand why exactly that angle was brought up in the first place, nor did I look at the movie through "social politics imbued" lenses.

To me the movie was just too pompous and messy with too little story between the stunts. That's all.
 
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Crossfire said:
The War Boys were by no means JACKED, but I distinctly remember them having a kind of lean muscularity that would make sense for savage post-apocalyptic warriors.

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5692351.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/the-ticket.jpg

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Besides, I would argue that masculinity isn't just defined by a person's physique. But, by a host of different qualities.

Let me just mention that I enjoyed Fury Road very much. I must've seen it about half a dozen times by now. But, lets not kid ourselves, there's definitely a message in it. I leave it up to each person to decide for themselves whether or not they have a problem with that.
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Good points.
I agree that the film has a message, as I've stated before. I just don't think it was ever intended or was anything insidious, as some tend to interpret it.


Kohno said:
To me the movie was just too pompous and messy with too little story between the stunts. That's all.
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That's fair, I can agree with that. I liked the non-stop action, but I understand why its overabundance in comparison to everything else ruined it for some.
 
I'd vote for Road Warrior simply because it established the post-apocalyptic setting and aesthetic while leaving the strongest impression on me. The story is nothing life-changing but it works for the film.

As for Mad Max and Beyond Thunderdome, they did not leave a strong impression on me when compared to Road Warrior though the first film adequately set up the character of Max and how he lost touch with his humanity while Beyond Thunderdome, it provided a decent conclusion to Max's tale and begins the healing process (to some extent).

As for Fury Road, I enjoyed it and the film is probably what Road Warrior could have been if it was made in modern times. I still prefer Road Warrior though. At least, this film does set up Max's ongoing recovery of his humanity by having him being able to start working with people and even identifying himself to them by name.
 
I loved Fury Road. I thought I wouldn't cus by the trailers it seemed pompous and messy, but I immediately enjoyed what I saw. The intro kind of sealed the experience for me, I knew it was going to rawk bawls.

I kind of agree with Doug Walker, in that it has "taken over" for Road Warrior, since they are very similar in being chase-movies, where the chase is the point, but RW still remains grittier and much more down to earth in comparison to FR's "hell-yeah!"-factor (the drummers, the guitar dude, the swing-set dudes, the Ruskis, the super-sand storm, etc)

oh and
I'm glad rampant anti-feminism is allready running out of steam. Man, it was getting really boring for a while, waaah waaah women are taking over, waaah, what are we to do if women come to rule everything, waaah waaah. Sheesh, these people, beware, maybe kittens will rule the world if you don't protect your tiny testicles, waaah waaah, what will you do then!?
 
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Atomkilla said:
Good points.
I agree that the film has a message, as I've stated before. I just don't think it was ever intended or was anything insidious, as some tend to interpret it.
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I do think it was intended, although not insidious and not as the whole focus of the movie (as with Ghostbusters).
In my opinion Miller's movies are always a product of their time. Mad Max 1 and 2 came from the much more conservative late 70s and early 80s, where everything was bleak and the first sign of social decay was "sexual deviancy". Beyond Thunderdome a bit later in the mid 80s was much more positive, with a focus on much more excentric characters and funny stuff, it took itself way less seriously. The big budget helped a lot, too.
And so is Fury Road a product of today, with a modern progressive message. I guess the difference is much more jarring as it's been so long since Beyond Thunderdome came out.
 
I phrased myself badly at that post, I do think it had an intended message - I just don't think it was insidious.

But yeah, your post nails it, baby.
 
Fury Road was great and the people trying to make a big deal out of it having some kind of message or agenda are the definition of "overreaching."
 
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Fury Road of course. It simply nailed the concept.

offtop: Beyond Thunderdome is good... For the first 40 minutes.
 
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I give the edge to the original Mad Max due to its slow-burn tension and focus on characters, which I overall prefer. The raw intensity and adrenaline rush of Road Warrior is fucking awesome nonetheless.

Thunderdome was decent, and I still haven't seen Fury Road yet so I cannot comment on it.
 
Bubba Zanetti said:
I give the edge to the original Mad Max due to its slow-burn tension and focus on characters, which I overall prefer. The raw intensity and adrenaline rush of Road Warrior is fucking awesome nonetheless.

Thunderdome was decent, and I still haven't seen Fury Road yet so I cannot comment on it.
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I think the guy in your avatar is the same actor who portrays Immortan Joe in Fury Road.

EDIT: I stand corrected (see below posts).
 
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Hassknecht said:
No, that's Bubba Zanetti (obviously). But Immortan Joe was played by the same guy as Toecutter, Hugh Keays-Byrne.
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Bubba Zanetti said:
Close.

My avatar is actually my favorite character in the film--Bubba Zanetti, played by retired actor Geoff Parry.

Hugh Keays-Byrne played Toe Cutter, the leader in the original, then went on to portray Immortan Joe in Fury Road.
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I stand corrected :)
 
The Road Warrior is the most iconic. The original Mad Max is great in its own right though, and is certainly great as well.
Beyond Thunderdome is pleasing to the eye, but story & setting is lacking. It's incoherent.
Fury Road is pure looks & style, no worthwhile content for me. I find it the most lackluster Mad Max movie. It's easily forgotten. Bigger isn't better for me.
 
Fury Road was the one I liked the most. If it had been Mel Gibson instead of Tom Hardy, I would have liked it even better.

Had the roles been switched (Max and Furiosa) nobody would bat an eye. There is no message in Fury Road, only the one you want to find.

Movies like Forrest Gump have a clear message, but not Fury Road.
 
Yeah Road Warrior is the best. Cant Believe that Fury Road has a political message behind it because it has a strong female character in it. I think people are stretching on that one haha. And Thunderdome, what can you say Tina Turner in Chainmail.
 
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