Bethesda's Settings; Which Had More Potential?

the setting with the most potential?

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That seems like a pretty broad assumption to make as well. That all of the buildings would be standing. That's not even really the case in the Fallout 3 we got since a number of buildings actually were completely leveled. I do think that the cities were a bit too dense, even so.

I think it's worth noting that pretty much everyone from the New Vegas team shares the belief that New Orleans, a city in the Southeast, is the number one best place to put the next Fallout game. That doesn't mean your idea that it should stay in the West is invalid, but I do think your claims for why that "card was played early" is possibly misplaced.
 
Brandy Beavers said:
That seems like a pretty broad assumption to make as well. That all of the buildings would be standing. That's not even really the case in the Fallout 3 we got since a number of buildings actually were completely leveled. I do think that the cities were a bit too dense, even so.

I think it's worth noting that pretty much everyone from the New Vegas team shares the belief that New Orleans, a city in the Southeast, is the number one best place to put the next Fallout game. That doesn't mean your idea that it should stay in the West is invalid, but I do think your claims for why that "card was played early" is possibly misplaced.
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Has anyone actually talked about New Orleans as a setting from Obsidian? I thought it was just a completely made up rumor from the fact they posted about New Orleans for *A* project but not a Fallout project.
 
It comes up in pretty much any interview where they would like to see Fallout go next/where they would put Fallout if they got another chance. Typically interviews are either with Sawyer or Avellone. They both tell the same story of how someone on the team (I forgot his name. Oof.) said that New Orleans would be a cool setting and the entire team just kind of agreed that if they could do it again, they'd take the series there next.

I believe Sawyer mentioned something about a bunch of groups inside the city that were in conflict with each other. Which sounds pretty derivative of New Vegas, but it's not like the idea was probably ever fleshed out.
 
Brandy Beavers said:
It comes up in pretty much any interview where they would like to see Fallout go next/where they would put Fallout if they got another chance. Typically interviews are either with Sawyer or Avellone. They both tell the same story of how someone on the team (I forgot his name. Oof.) said that New Orleans would be a cool setting and the entire team just kind of agreed that if they could do it again, they'd take the series there next.

I believe Sawyer mentioned something about a bunch of groups inside the city that were in conflict with each other. Which sounds pretty derivative of New Vegas, but it's not like the idea was probably ever fleshed out.
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I hope so, I intend to move to New Orleans in a couple of years and its where my third Cthulhu book is going to be set.
 
Brandy Beavers said:
I believe Sawyer mentioned something about a bunch of groups inside the city that were in conflict with each other. Which sounds pretty derivative of New Vegas, but it's not like the idea was probably ever fleshed out.
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I'd love to see New Orleans as a setting. And honestly, pretty much any game is going to have factions pitted against one another. It's both realistic and helps to generate drama. Having a single "bad guy" would worry me more.

Do you think Avellone would have left with a new Fallout in the works, though? It's possible, but it seems like he'd at least stall his departure for something like that.
 
omphaloskepsis said:
I'd love to see New Orleans as a setting. And honestly, pretty much any game is going to have factions pitted against one another. It's both realistic and helps to generate drama. Having a single "bad guy" would worry me more.

Do you think Avellone would have left with a new Fallout in the works, though? It's possible, but it seems like he'd at least stall his departure for something like that.
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I thought the reason Avellone left was so he COULD work on the new Fallout and possibly head it up.
 
I'm not saying that Obsidian is making a new Fallout. I'm saying that there's a consistent idea from the entire Vegas team on what they would do next if they got to make another Fallout.

Avellone's reasons for going freelance weren't really due to anything Fallout related but he said that if he would like to work on Fallout from the source so he could have some more authority on the lore and not have to constantly check in to see if everything's alright.

Factions are great. Especially when telling a Fallout story. The reason I said it was derivative is because the factions in that idea Sawyer pitched were fighting over control of a city. A city that has very much in common with Las Vegas already.
 
Brandy Beavers said:
Well, key location is probably the wrong terminology to use. But didn't you wonder how other areas were like when playing Fallout 1 and 2? Or even New Vegas if you played that one first? Like "Wonder what's going on in NYC. Or D.C."
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Not really. I do wonder what Arizona is like, or ronto, or What life is like south of the glow. I'm only interested in the civilizations and societies that we know exist.
 
R.Graves said:
Not really. I do wonder what Arizona is like, or ronto, or What life is like south of the glow. I'm only interested in the civilizations and societies that we know exist.
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Serious question but....why?

Wouldn't the original team of Fallout (which Obsidian basically was in NV) be the kind of people to introduce new stuff?

Why stick to what's just pre-existing?

I say that as someone who absolutely loves New Orleans to a ridiculous extent.
 
CT Phipps said:
Serious question but....why?

Wouldn't the original team of Fallout (which Obsidian basically was in NV) be the kind of people to introduce new stuff?

Why stick to what's just pre-existing?

I say that as someone who absolutely loves New Orleans to a ridiculous extent.
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I get curious about where the breadcrumbs lead. I don't wander off into the unknown in search of food.
 
There's nothing wrong with wanting to know what's in a mentioned, yet unseen area either. I think that's just as valid as wondering what's going on in some popular city or even in your own hometown.
 
Brandy Beavers said:
There's nothing wrong with wanting to know what's in a mentioned, yet unseen area either. I think that's just as valid as wondering what's going on in some popular city or even in your own hometown.
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I never said that wondering what's going on In NYC or New Orleans wasn't valid. All I said is I don't wonder. I wonder what the hangdog tribe was like and what pre-Caesar new Canaan was like. Shit like that. And lol my hometown is in bumblefuck KY. Across the river from a city that's actually relevant.
 
0wing said:
Commonwealth has this "ductape cyberpunk" vibe, if you let me... Regardless of opinions an interesting settng, well suited for Fallout. And it never really resulted into anything aside from silly gimmicks, because bethesda... 'adds to the lore', apparently.
Capital wasteland doesn't even play because it should be dead anyways first and more like moon because of craters left from nukes, second. So, vat it.
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I could see an industrial nation scavenging the capital wasteland. Maybe even setting up towns there in the distant future. Towns support by scavenging metal for said industrial nation. Perhaps early on they would hire ghouls to brave the irradiated crater. Though they wouldn't be able to carry much so the pay would be low... Whatever. Point is I wouldn't write off DC entirely.
 
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CT Phipps said:
It didn't?

Compared to every other setting, it's a barren radioactive hellhole. It's like an entire setting which resembles the Glow.
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This is the last time I'm posting regarding this point, so I'll just say no it didn't. Too many buildings were left standing. It's nothing like the Glow, the Glow was actually dangerous with radiation.

Brandy Beavers said:
Not really. There's not really much point in sending that many nukes, even if you're expecting many of them to be shot down.
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America was close to invading Beijing by this point, China had nothing to lose by then. Whether or not they launched first they would have given it all they got.
 
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Brandy Beavers said:
That doesn't mean your idea that it should stay in the West is invalid, but I do think your claims for why that "card was played early" is possibly misplaced.
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That's not my idea, that's your idea you put in my mouth to be more credible, that's a shitposting right here. No, my idea is fuck D.C. and NYC only, there are other good settings to build a game around, like you mentioned New Orleans.
 
0wing said:
That's not my idea, that's your idea you put in my mouth to be more credible, that's a shitposting right here. No, my idea is fuck D.C. and NYC only, there are other good settings to build a game around, like you mentioned New Orleans.
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Oh really? :whatever:
0wing said:
No it's not. It won't work in capital wasteland. Only west since it's soil not damaged too much.
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0wing said:
Honestly? Whatever and good riddance, Fallout of all things is post-apoc western and in definition not bethesda's patriotic masturbation.
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FalloutIsMyDrug said:
Oh really? :whatever:
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Bruh!

In that first quote he was saying that the G.E.C.K. wouldn't work in D.C. because the soil is too irradiated there.

in the second quite he was referring to the western genre not western settings. The classics had a very western feel imo especially in towns like junktown and Redding.

In neither of those quotes was he referring to the west coast and how the games should only be set there.
 
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