Big shit in Thailand

Big T said:
I am amazed at how many people consider "The Media" to be a large, ominous organisation completely independant of people's views.
The media show what A) they feel is important.
and B) what they think the public finds important.

On this we do not disagree. It's just that many are saying things that boil down to: "The media and/or people apparently think X is important. But Y over here is what's really important. Sigh, stupid immoral media and/or people." That kind of reasoning/judgement implicates that "importance" is a real, objective quantity, which I argue it is not (very post-modern of me). And when this denial of a cosmic duty to care about everyone and everything gets branded as evil, I really think that evil has gotten watered down a bit.

Big T said:
Also, quoting yourself does nothing but inflate your sense of self importance. :D

I said:
Perhaps I should be in the media more!
 
This pisses me off so much (not just from the Swedes or Dutchies though, from us Brits and probably every other country in the world). Why do a handful of deaths from your country mean so much when compared to the hundred thousand plus foreigners dead?
Give me a fucking break, Big T. Note that word ironically in my post. And don't post bullshit without actually having any form of more information or without thinking it through. What are you thinking, that we're ignoring those 124,000 dead? Hell no! Those dead are the main news, not the Dutch victims. However, the Dutch victims are noted, because obviously there are family members and friends in the Netherlands who DO want to know about this.
 
I'm in Canada and I haven't stopped hearing about it since it happened on the radio and it's been front page on the newspaper for the past two days.
 
I'm not complaining, I'm just saying that the Canadian Media cares about foreign events as well as local ones.
 
Sander said:
Give me a fucking break, Big T...
Uh ... didn't I just answer this same thing from Baboon?
Big T said:
Baboon said:
I don't care about them more, it's just the main focus of the news over here, and for Sweden, that IS a lot. Just informing you as you might not know, is all. Stop making stupid assumptions.
I didn't mean you, I meant your news. Which I assume has been focussing on them from your comment and from how the British news has been with our missing/dead. That was the only assumption I made.
Meh, terrible wording on my part, but calm down man.

Also, I agree with Briosa. Those of you who have not donated yet - go do so now. Please.
 
So I just got back from Egypt from a really awesome two week vacation without accessing the internet, reading a newspaper or watching a news broadcast. How does this relate to this thread? To cut to the chase, me and my family was originally going to some coast place in Thailand - not just speculating but had booked tickets. I didn't know of this since, quite frankly - you may think it to be weird but such is the case - I didn't really care much for where we were going on vacation, since I knew it would be to some charter tourist destination anyway. Even though I devoted one day to going to Cairo and seeing the pyramids, the rest of the two weeks were spent sipping "free" beer and drinks by the pool which could have been a pool in any warm country in the world. That it was Egypt was merely coincidence, especially since Thailand had already been booked. The travel agency cancelled the trip to Thailand some weeks ago, and with very little choice left my grandmother dug up some other travel agency which had tickets to Egypt avalible. Done, we were going to Egypt.

I don't know to what extent you will find this 'creepy' or 'freeky', (especially depending on how well you know me) but I really don't care much exept that I realize of course that it could have been the death of me - though not more than that I am aware that every time I go outside, cross a street - or stay in the home even - I am subject to risks of dying in various ways; it's a fact of life. Still a bit creepy though. The kill count of this disaster is estimated to what now, 150.000 in total, of which 3500 are suspected to be Swedes, of which 60 are confirmed dead. Many will think of me as a heartless beast when I say this, but, quite frankly; Sucks to be them.

I don't find any joy in the misfortune, death and dismay of others - of course I do not think that such things are 'amusing' in any way. Things of this nature are annoying, but they happen (catch that far fethced reference). Did you people not know that the world is quite frankly a piece of shit world, with a next to endless amount of suffering in it? Did you need a disaster of this proportion to feel that everything is not well in the world, and that people are in need of desperate aid? Duh, Sherlock - then you're the kind of guy who donates ten bucks a month to some help organization because you got a bad conscience from some little girl's doglike eyes in their tv commercial. You are aware of the state of the world, though you don't like to be reminded of it, since when you do your conscience forces you to act, to give up something that which is your own in favour for others whom you do not know.

If I cared about charity, I would not be capable to live the life I'm living. It's not a particulary rich life by western standards, but a quite comfortable everyone-to-himself kind of life. When I have money over, I go to a hooty bar or buy a bottle of cognac or something of the like instead of donating it to those in dire need even though I am aware of their need and my ability to help them. Neither do you. Of course, this depends on what you define as "money over", though do you really *need* that beer/coke (or un-pasteurized carrot juice if you're a hippie) you're drinking? Do you really *need* that computer you're using? What in your life do you really *need* to continue your existence, and how many lives could be saved with your excess capital? How can you ever enjoy consuming anything if you constantly go around measuring it's worth in human lives? (I realize of course that very few people does this, but still).

I'm too tired to continue now, so please, smite me like I've never been smitted before if you beg to differ and I will get back to you in the morrow. Peace.

Edit: Holy shit, I just remembered that teh stripper girlfriend is in Thailand for the time being, thus being unable to reach on her Czech mobile operator. She doesn't live anywhere near the coast though, so I'm just assuming she's a-ok - it would really suck if she'd die, though only because that would be the end of my gloryful stripper-dating days. /Edit.
 
Thank God your ok Luke. I dont know if anyone else realised it, but I thought I remember your girlfriend being Thai...she's probably ok.

Your honesty is refereshing too.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
Luke said:
Edit: Holy shit, I just remembered that teh stripper girlfriend is in Thailand for the time being, thus being unable to reach on her Czech mobile operator. She doesn't live anywhere near the coast though, so I'm just assuming she's a-ok - it would really suck if she'd die, though only because that would be the end of my gloryful stripper-dating days. /Edit.
Do you even have emotions?
 
*Sarcasm detected, launching politelaugh.exe*

Hehe.

Seriously though, I can't believe that as said it takes a disaster of this proportion in order for us in the west world, and maybe even to some extent you, to realize that people in the world are in desperate need of aid and that we (agan, maybe even you) are able, and have been able for quite some time even before this disaster, to help those who drew the shorter straws in life. (Damn that was a long sentence.) Feel free to think that I'm a heartless fuck, but IMO I'm no more heartless than you who have now donated a buck or two to some aid organization and two weeks ago were scratching your asses, just like me, not doing anything to help the children dying of lack of water for instance, while you now care so much about those who have gotten too much of it.

I'm not saying that giving money to charity is in any way bad, of course not; I even salute it. I'm just saying that you who are only 'helping' when you are somewhat 'required' to help due to feelings of guilt rather than pure good will are as heartless as I since you are helping only in order to stimulate yourselves.

I'm just a guy who wants to get laid; logic suggest that it would be sad for me if my primary ticket to scoring would up and die.
 
You missed the point. I was referring to the manner in which you refer to the woman who is (was?) your girlfriend and nearly died in a destructive tsunami ("my primary ticket to scoring" - wow, you are starting to remind me of... well, of myself), and the fact that it took you a while to even remember that your girlfriend is in Thailand. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to judge you, I just find it pretty funny.
 
I wouldn't say that she 'nearly died in a destructive tsunami' just because she is in Thailand and I can't reach her. Well, I of course don't really know for certain weather she's dead or not, but I don't deem the odds to be high enough to cause me worry.

And I don't mind anyone judging me one bit, I judge you people all the time; I just didn't think it was all that funny, though I'm glad you did since what would the world be without humor?
 
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