keyser Soeze
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
exactly
Borat Movie
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Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
exactly
keyser Soeze said:exactly
Sounds like she wasn't even fired for making the mistake of booking him, but fired for "spiraling into depression". Can't say I blame her boss. Personal responsibility, it's a bitch
The only actors in the movie were Borat and his producer, the family members in the intro, the black hookes and Pamela Anderson. All other people were, basically, had.
I loved the movie too, and cried to tears in certain scenes. Mostly, though, it sent shivers up my spine - the American culture seems, by far, the most xenophobic, cold and lonely one I have ever seen. I know it's most likely extrapolated, but still...
A must-see movie, tho'.
I loved the movie too, and cried to tears in certain scenes. Mostly, though, it sent shivers up my spine - the American culture seems, by far, the most xenophobic, cold and lonely one I have ever seen. I know it's most likely extrapolated, but still...
A must-see movie, tho'.
The movie deliberately shows primitive, ignorant and xenophobic elements. In reality, America as a whole is nowhere near like that. In fact, American society is more open than any European society that I'm familiar with. If you move to a European country, you always remain a foreigner, even after living there for 20 years, whereas in America practically *everyone* is either a foreigner or a close descendant of one, so it's really easy to blend in and become accepted.Jebus said:
Really?
Most scenes from NY were about people threatening to beat him up if he kissed them on the cheeck, though, IIRC.
Most scenes from NY were about people threatening to beat him up if he kissed them on the cheeck, though, IIRC.
mortiz said:
I think Borat (the character) was received very warmly by most of the "targets". Even in the South. Think about it. For almost every scene, he really had to push the envelope a lot before people got pissed off.
As for the New Yorkers, well, they're pretty well known for having a short temper. But hey, I'd say they're tamer than most people in Italy (speaking from personal experience).
Ratty said:
That's not *always* really the case, too. If an immigrant takes the time to study local language thoroughly, adapt to local culture and really makes an effort to y'know, fit in, they *will* be accepted, usually. The problem is that a lot of immigrants choose to cling to the very identity they chose to flee from. I mean, the Congolese in the Matundu-quarter in Brussels or the Jews in the Jewish quarter in Antwerp will always be foreigners, even if their family has lived here since, like, the 13th century - because they conciously reject Flemish culture and stick and flock with their own. How can you ever hope to be 'accepted' as a 'local', then?
In an overwhelming majority of cases (as in, big-city integration), this is the only reason why they can never really integrate.
Those scenes only prove that there are people in New York who get pissed off if you try to kiss them on the cheek. For all we know, he could have tried to kiss hundreds of people before someone threatened to beat him up.Jebus said:
Though, I'm not excluding the possibility that everyone he met reacted angrily to his... uh, advances. To be fair, I'm not sure how I'd respond if someone walked up to me and tried to give me a smooch.
Ah, who am I kidding. I'd probably get a hard-on.
That's the thing, then. My impression of America is that there isn't really a homogeneous culture for immigrants to adapt to. Sure, there are certain values almost everyone adheres to, and learning the language is a no-brainer, but for the most part, America is a mish-mash of diverse cultures, and one can fit in without making much of an effort to do so. Europe is different in that regard, and most European countries have a strong, homogeneous native culture that you need to adapt to if you don't want to be instantly identifiable as an immigrant.Jebus said:
Jebus is a hatmonger!
Jebus trades in hats?Kharn said:
I would normally write something funny now, y'know, with the hat Hitler in this pic is carrying and all - but since it's late and the joke is obvious, I'll leave it at that.