Brian Fargo on "social" features

I'm not a graphics whore by nature, but I'm so curious as to how the game is going to look. Only time will tell.

I wonder if they are tempted to use the same engine they used in Choplifter HD. If that is the case then Wasteland 2 will be a 3d game.

 

Brian Fargo is officially the 'Man of the Year 2012'.

 

I wonder why everyone is so nagging on a mod-kit. Just a mapper and easy access to the rest of the files would be totally enough. No need for extra fancy tools. Somehow I have the feeling that people are expecting Bethesda Creation Kit and stuff, which I find totally not feasible if you don't use such a tool for creating the game in the first place.

 

Can we get a poll on this issue now in the official forums, Brother None...?

 

Yeah, to quote myself on the other thread...

As long as stuff isn't hardcoded, and the formats are easy enough to guess. And seriously, what reason could they have to not use something text-based to make their lives easier with so many parsers on this era?

 

It's obvious that Brian Fargo will not drop his social idea and i was not expecting it.
He just doesn't share the same vison of what it seems to be the majority.
So let's hope that he doesn't focus too much money/time on this thing at the expense of the rest like he ensures us.
I doubt we will see any official poll about it as long as no more details are revealed.
Yep, Bethesda influence about the mod kit is obvious.
I guess it's very important for some because they see W2 as a huge sand box game where they should be able to easily and extensively mod.
I would like it more like the size of fallout 2, quite small if you compare it to Bethesda games but much more tight.

 

I'm glad I won't follow development too closely. I think there will be way to many instances of: "I put out $1000 for this game and now you are ruining it and I want my money back." Or some such feeling.

I think this has the strong potential to get REALLY ugly....

 

Well, ruining what? There wasn't much said in the beginning and what was said is still true.

 

"I put out $1000 for this game and now you are ruining it and I want my money back" kind of threat is quite unecessary/disgracefull and should be avoided.If something is really a deal breaker it will quickly become obvious.
On the other hand it's a good thing backers can voice the kind of features they like/dislike and influence the design. It is the goal of this kickstarter project after all.
The thing is to stay polite.
Of course things have the potential to get ugly if nobody is mature enough to accept compromise.
I can understand you don't want to follow the development too closely, it's a wise decision.
I suggest you to vote in the google moderator poll they have created though.
It should keep you away from the "heat" while still giving your input.

 

My humble guess is so they will stick with UE3 engine, which was used recently in the Hunted: Demon's Forge.

edit:
Yay! Just googled it, UE3 was used even in the Choplifter HD. Silly me!

 

That's not good at all. UE3 was designed with console corridor shooters in mind. Most open world games made with UE3 have horrible performance and bugs.

 

Yup, also there should be additional license costs, which would fuck shit up.

 

It's 2012 y'all, I'll be real disappointed if I can't sync up wasteland 2 with my farmville world.

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I don't like the idea of being able to have any real impact on one of my friends games or vice versa, but there are plenty of fun and interesting ways some social aspects could be incorporated. Stuff like gravestones and graffiti wouldnt tear down the fourth wall, things like that could be a lot of fun.

 

All I hope is that it looks and feels like old school Fallout (except for the things that made wasteland what it was and have to be in, like the ranger squad instead of a single protagonist, etc). Other than that, I'll wait and see.

 

How ?

It costs way less to use an engine than to develop one.

 

I hate the day the word 'engine' became a common term for gamers.

This is a 2D isometric RPG. You could probably develop the whole engine base with several open and free libraries(which are cross platform anyway, and that's their focus at the moment). Given that the solutions to these kind of games don't need researching anything new whatsoever, I'm pretty sure some competent coders could pull it off in some weeks.

(I mean a single hobbyist with no direction whatsoever could get close anyway in 1-2 months)

 

Corridor Shooter engine sounds more like id Tech 4 than UE3 considering how many indie games use the UE3 to great affect as well as the aforementioned running smooth on large Unreal 3 maps.