C h i p s

Well, to turn people into machines, you don't even need chips.
Religion, MTV and chemicals are the key to the future!

Dat said, interestin' article, dat.
 
Key to the present, I say, Wooz.

And in principle, microchips and smart tags in the goods we buy and use are a cornerstone of the new information age. The essential facet is privacy and protecting the individual from inappropriate use; protecting their civil rights. In the current state of privacy law and due process, I must say that I woldn't want a chip.

-Murdoch goes and turns off his cellphone-
 
For this specific use for microchips, I believe it's going to be a positive thing in the long run. It could be used positively or negatively, but having such identification could prove helpful in many circumstances. Especially in hospitals, where a medical record could be kept always with your person.

This type of technology is starting to appear, the first artificial eyes, connected through a brain-jack and a computer; have been installed into people. The possibilities for direct nerve-connections are limitless, it's exciting. I have no real problems with such devices being installed in me to overcome disabilities.

Artifical Vision - The Dobelle Institute
CBC News: The Arificial Eye
Popular Mechanics: Progress In Artificial Vision
Wired: Vision Quest
 
Kotario said:
The possibilities for direct nerve-connections are limitless, it's exciting.
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The main problem is scar tissue on the nerve endings. The scar tissue blocks the neurochemicals. I have not seen a way to get past it yet but I am sure someone will find a solution.
 
PsychoSniper said:
I want a friggin laser attached to my arm!
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i want sharks with lasers attached to their heads... :roll:

seriously though:

it's almost inevitable that somewhere in the future all people will have these chips inplanted. 'soon' barcodes on things you buy in shops will be replaced by very small patches that no longer need to be scanned. you just walk past instead of having a cashier scan everything and hup you pay how you want to.

in conjunction with bodyinplanted chips you dont even have to pay anymore. it identifies you and you pay without doing a thing as you leave the store.

this is not science fiction, they are able to do this already. more than that, they have discovered a way to make the patches without using any harmfull chemicals or compounds (when you think 'hey thats normal' think again, all electronics we have today are pretty poisonous). these things can be made biodegradable too.

the industry that has developed this however thinks it will at least take 10 years before it can be put to full use. humans are afraid of change afterall...
 
Maybe humans don't want to be pigeonholed and tracked by an omnipresent Big Brother as seen in the movie "minority report".
Sticking numbers to people, meh. The nazis invented that in the camps, to de-humanize people, stripping them from their names.

My neighbour was in such a camp. He used to wake up in the night, screaming in terror of what he had seen there, scratching furiously his forearm.
 
That's my main problem with sci-fi crapola like these chips: they should only brand cattle, and maybe not even that.

People go: wow, how convenient, we'll be able to go shopping and we won't even have to reach for our wallets. We'll be Uber with these silicon things in our shoulders and elbows and necks. Tag us, peh-lease. Or: small children will never get lost again or abducted. And so on.

But what about our privacy? What about our freedom? These chips are like the most certain way for governments to watch our every move. Big Brother, you know. And I don't like that idea. It's that sick, Western mentality. Exchanging freedom for so-called security and convenience. But it doesn't really give us anything, it only robs us of our most precious possessions: the right to do as we please, the right to go where we please.

Think about it.
 
hmz this is rapidly turning into a discussion about privacy :)

tried to leave that out of my post and stick to the real information instead of my opinion

anyhow, i might post something about it when i have more time on my hands
 
What about allowing the blind to see? What about having prosthetics that actually respond to nervous system commands and are used like normal limbs?

There will be microchips involved in all these types of medical technology (and the possibility of them being tracked, easy enough to slip something like that in), would you prevent people from enjoying these advancements?

I've known someone who died because of sloppy medical records, if they had a chip which recorded all their allergies and previous hospitalizations and could been have read at the hospital, they would have survived. Rather, their records were spread over dozens of sheets of paper, all over the world. When they were admitted to the hospital, he were unconscious, and unable to give the doctors his own version of the records (the most complete of them all). Think about it.

Like we are not simply numbers right now. Have a credit card? A bank account? Unless you pay for everything in cash (and are paid in cash, no withdrawing from ATMs or banks), don't pay taxes, and never sign your name; you can be tracked in modern society.

Why don't we adopt a barter economy? It would destroy modern civilization, but it would protect our privacy!
 
Then I suppose the handicapped will have to risk being monitored by Big Brother. The Truth is Out There. Minority Report will happen.
 
Tsk. Again, a misunderstanding.
Applying this sort of technology and electronic monitoring to people who don't need it is pointless. However, I'd be all for something that enables the blind to see, or paralyzed people recover motion.
 
I actually like the idea of tagging people. True, it does open the door for more invasive surveillance of people, but if it were properly controlled, it could be a great benefit to society.
Plus, it's be convenient. No more carrying wallets, credit cards, passport, house keys.
I would have no real problem with the gov't knowing where I am, I don't do anything illegal enough for them to come after me. Also, as Kotario says, you can (almost always) be tracked, this would just make it more efficient. Hell, it'd even save money on policing costs, so it'd pay for itself.
Then there is the potential for medical records (etc) to be put on it. Allergic to penicillin? Haemopheliac? Organ donor? Jehovah's Witness? (they are often against receiving blood donation). All this could be on a chip in your arm/leg/head preventing medical cock ups.

And I'm just talking about an information/tracking chip here, not a "useful" implant.
 
Off of the subject or privacy, what about foreign bodies? Our body doesn't always like random things sticking into it... and adding metal to the body might affect things. Magnetism affects blood flow. Pacemakers affect the heart. We could have a major malfunction when messing around with non-organic devices in human bodies.
 
Nah, it's cool. For example, if your grandma dies and you want her bank account, just cut out her chip. Very convenient.

Also, you won't have to bring people to ATMs at gun-point to take their money. Just shoot them and cut the chip out with a knife. You want prescription drugs? Carve up some old lady and use her chip.
 
the whole point of it is that it only works if it's you APTYP

you cant cut it out...
 
I think ultimately, the smart 1% of the american population will actually realize how much an invasion of privacy silicon chips will be, but the ignorant majority won't. Eventually a law will be passed everyone needs a chip. Then we're all screwed. Move to Canada!!!
 
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