Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare.

The Overseer said:
They're "Russian ultra-nationalists". Honestly, I didn't find the "bad guys" to be that evil in the game, at least not as certain reviewers hyped it. Their motives were unclear and might've been the right ones, who knows?

And the AC-130 mission was cool, but it wasn't "okay" from a moral point of view. Especially considering the airplane's crew's comments every time you cowardly blew an enemy into thin air: "kaboom", "that's a kill", etc. This wouldn't be very worrying if it didn't actually happen in real life, as seen in certain Internet videos; "yeah, he looks like a bad guy, smoke him". Glorifying the use of Gunships, which is today an apparently overly brutal tactic, is kind of, well, sickening.

I kind of felt that from a moral point of view, I could just as well have been playing from the previous COD games' nazis' point of view. Overall, VERY Tom Clancy-ish plot.
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Hmm that's intriguing, I wonder if that's just a feeling you got or it's supposed to be that way.

Weird that Zakhaev is supposed to be a "Russian ultra-nationalist". There is an actual Zakhaev whom Russia is trying to get from the UK. He was one of the anti-Russian Chechen leaders. No doubt that's where the last name came from.
 
It's war, Overseer. Next time you're in the middle of one, feel free to park your chopper and offer your enemy who is armed, locked and loaded a cup of joe, I'm sure he'll understand. To think that anyone can justify or villify someone based on the politics of warfare is rather black-and-white. But that's delving into sociology and philosophy and ethics.

The feeling I got from the AC-130 mission was, just that, a mission. They're doing their job. Unfortunate for the guys on the receiving end, but they're not bombing a group of civilians picknicking in a park.

Anyways, politics and philosophy aside, multiplayer is a frag fest unless played on Search and Destroy servers with Hardcore mode. Sucks how console users can't view server lists until patched, though.
 
Ugh, that really wasn't the point. I'm not going to bother arguing this with you though, as you're obviously too biased.

The multiplayer is a lot of fun, especially with ranks and such. I play it daily, but there really aren't enough (especially team hardcore) servers around.
 
The Overseer said:
Ugh, that really wasn't the point. I'm not going to bother arguing this with you though, as you're obviously too biased.
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I guess if people can be biased in their realistic viewpoints, then I'm guilty as sin.

The Overseer said:
The multiplayer is a lot of fun, especially with ranks and such. I play it daily, but there really aren't enough (especially team hardcore) servers around.
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The ranks are shit. It takes no skill or dedication to get to level 55 (General) and unlock all the weapons. Sure, unlocking all the special add-ons like silencers and scopes require some dedication (or lots of luck/playing time), but other than that, it's simply a "play me long enough, and you'll have it all" type of system.

Anyways, the server I usually play on is 504PIR Tactical Realism Search and Destroy server. It's set on Hardcore mode, but they also have server rules such as no frags, 203s, RPGs, airstrikes, helicopters until 25 seconds have passed, you have to use your sights as much as possible (no hip shootings or running and gunning), no bunny hopping, no blindly firing through random walls that may or may not be the 'usual spot' for someone to take cover behind, meaning you can't just shoot ghosts, you have to spot someone either by seeing/hearing them, taking fire/supporting fire from/to that position, and/or they are detected by UAV, and the martyrdom perk, which is the shittiest perk anyone can have is not allowed.

And the nice thing about Search and Destroy is, once you're dead, you stay dead until the round is over and you can win the round without killing anyone at all, unless you're on the defending team. The objective of Search and Destroy is if you're the attacking team, you must take the bomb to a target, and the map will have one or more targets, and set it and wait for it to go off to win. The defending team's job is to stop you from doing that, by either killing you all, or defusing the bomb once it is set. Of course, if the defending team is completely eliminated, or the attacking team is completely eliminated with the bomb not set the game is over. Once the bomb is set, the defending team must defuse it, even if they kill all the attackers, or the game is lost.
 
Search and Destroy is overall my favorite mode, and the one I play the most, it also generally grants the most XP. I love shooting through walls though, it's both realistic and adds a "can't say here" element which kind of prevents camping and perching behind cover. I've very rarely been killed my the martyrdom perk, and I don't think it's particularly effective. In Hardcore though, Last Stand offers good payback, as even pistols, especially the Desert Eagle, do lots of damage. Kind of annoying, but that's how it is.
 
Maybe realistic when you know someone is in the building, but going around and just spamming walls with random fire is kind of stupid. If you want to bring realism into the fray, well rules of engagement and all that, not to mention, you might friendly fuck your own teammate, plus the guys who run the server are combat vets that I know personally, so I'll take their word of what is real over yours, no offense. Either way, it helps to reduce the frag-fest nature that plagues FPSs these days.

Anyways, I can't stand people who always whine about camping, not saying you're doing that, but it's a pouters way of trying to justify being killed. It's what the defenders on Search and Destroy HAVE to do anyways, so it's a bit redundant to whine about it.

The martyrdom perk is frowned upon on most of the Hardcore servers. It rarely kills anyone other than your own teammates. Last stand, however, is a glorious way to go out. I use last stand in almost all my custom classes, except for Marksman, which is just an M14 with custom sights and high penetration and high stopping power. Also, I strongly suggest UAV blocker and Dead Silence. Those two, along with silenced weapons makes for great sneaking around.
 
It's my assumption that most weapons can shoot through a regular house wall, and I've never really been shot through a wall by someone who didn't know I was there, and I've never had it happen in Search and Destroy, which is pretty much the only mode I play. If you see someone by a window who suddenly ducks, you spray the house with lead. Especially if you have a LMG. Nothing very unrealistic about that.

I prefer having a sniper rifle with ACOG, so I never use the silencer thingies.
 
Did anyone else experience a crash in this game? My COD4 crashes in the loading sequence right after president Al Fara (or whatever his name was) gets executed... :?
I'm going to try updating some drivers....
 
The Overseer said:
It's my assumption that most weapons can shoot through a regular house wall, and I've never really been shot through a wall by someone who didn't know I was there, and I've never had it happen in Search and Destroy, which is pretty much the only mode I play. If you see someone by a window who suddenly ducks, you spray the house with lead. Especially if you have a LMG. Nothing very unrealistic about that.
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Which is exactly what I said earlier.

"no blindly firing through random walls that may or may not be the 'usual spot' for someone to take cover behind, meaning you can't just shoot ghosts, you have to spot someone either by seeing/hearing them, taking fire/supporting fire from/to that position, and/or they are detected by UAV"
 
Yeah, but it's weird. I've been playing from launch and I've never had that happen to me, even on Hardcore, where most bullets can easily kill through walls. It's just not reasonable doing it, since you're going to expose yourself for too long and get shot.
 
I use deep penetration with stopping power with my Heavy Guns class, I do happen to accidently kill people through walls.

And overseer, I already said the exact same comment about the AC-130 mission earlier in the post. Duoooi


I honestly think they made the mission to be graphic. But if they weren't trying to go for a T rating while in alpha, we probably would actually get to see the results of....

"I see lots of little pieces down there"

"He's hamburger"

and all the other quotes.
 
The new patch seems to balance things out a bit. Didn't they say they would have unlimited sprint though?

Also, they should definitely remove airstrike from search and destroy.
 
You have to find a good server to play on Overseer. Most TR servers don't allow airstrikes, choppers, or explosives within the first minute or half-minute. Other than that, I don't see what's wrong with it unless you play on a crappy map like Shipment, the worst map of the bunch, and perhaps for Wet Work since you'd figure after one or two airstrikes a ship would sink.
 
I don't think I've even played Shipment. Wet work is very rare. Whatever the update included, it wasn't a server list. Servers won't go down because a host leaves anymore, though.

I just finished a session where I played nothing but Team hardcore, both deathmatch and search and destroy. It was awesome, I gained like two ranks.
 
You gain most XP I've discovered while playing Ground War. Though it bugs me that I have to use my 2nd perk slot with stopping power everytime I'm not playing Hardcore. Meh, but it all fricken balances out with all the gametypes, and thats whats important. But, I guess they were to lazy to upload a server list.. bah
 
Not sure, last time I got 575 XP for playing Hardcore S&D, and once I got 700 XP. On Team Deathmatch I usually get 200-300 XP, and it's not as much fun.
 
You sound like counterstrike dweebs.

Babs, you thought the AC130 Spectre/Spooky mission was offensive? Check the first two minutes of this out:

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=xgKRAHMibZk[/youtube]
 
Wooz said:
You sound like counterstrike dweebs.

Babs, you thought the AC130 Spectre/Spooky mission was offensive? Check the first two minutes of this out:

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=xgKRAHMibZk[/youtube]
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Jesus Christ, I just read the comments on YouTube...
 
Jesus Christ, I just read the comments on YouTube...
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Ahh, yes. YouTube comments are the world's biggest source of stupidity and an excellent example of what happens to a board when it's not moderated.
 
Wooz said:
You sound like counterstrike dweebs.

Babs, you thought the AC130 Spectre/Spooky mission was offensive? Check the first two minutes of this out:

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=xgKRAHMibZk[/youtube]
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Offensive? no. Frightening, yes. Because of videos like this which I've seen before I played COD4, the AC-130 mission was a little too real when I played it. Dark, creepy, and disturbing. Which is why I like it so much.

Heres one of the best videos I can find, and ignore the comments.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=1of92r7vFuU&feature=related[/youtube]
 
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