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Capitalism allows free enterprise and competition, sure, but capitalist society works like a wolfpack. You're weaker than the others, you get left behind. I'm not saying it's inherently bad, but it shouldn't be applied to matters that have to do with people's health (i.e healthcare).
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I think both shoud exsist in healthcare, frankly.
 
Arguments?

Nah, Capitalism and privatization in healthcare, politics (a corporate-run state) and education only deepens the class differences between a country's citizens.

Not a good idea.
 
I'm not for a corporate run state.

Eleiminating those options, however, makes both ineffeciant. Best you can hope for is a combination of the two.
 
It all depends on the funding and the restrictions that are applied to the people snd structures involved those three sectors. If it's well-funded, and the people involved are competent and well-paid, there's no reason for it to be inefficient.
 
The trouble with Capitalism involved in this is that the private schools/hospitals/parties can always get humongous funding from extremely big and extremely powerful corporations, to destroy the "concurrence", in this case being the state-funded ones, and it would be completely legal.

Public money, intended to fund state-run structures, would go to private hands instead of a state fund for development.

It isn't a fair competition. Eventually, the best doctors/teachers would quit public facilities and start their own business, contributing to lowering the standards of public welfare.

Not to mention politicians.
 
True enough.

However, in some situations, such as Catholic or Ba'hai schools, or military ones, it offers a unique educational oppertunity that cannot (and should not) be supported by public money.
 
Exactly, that's why religious and military schools, endoctrinating tools to turn people on themselves, should be banned :twisted:
 
I know I've posted this numerous times before, but I'll just give you the definition now instead of a link.

Patriotism - one's love for a country that isn't restricted to blind love, one can argue and disagree with their country, and even see it worse than others, but can still be a patriot if that person still has love and loyalty to it

Nationalism - one's strict, biased, love towards one's country, and seeing their country as better than any other, never disagreeing or arguing against their nation
 
Paladin Solo said:
I know I've posted this numerous times before, but I'll just give you the definition now instead of a link.

Patriotism - one's love for a country that isn't restricted to blind love, one can argue and disagree with their country, and even see it worse than others, but can still be a patriot if that person still has love and loyalty to it

Nationalism - one's strict, biased, love towards one's country, and seeing their country as better than any other, never disagreeing or arguing against their nation
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Let's take a look at webster's:

Patriotism \Pa"tri*ot*ism\, n. [Cf. F. patriotisme.]
Love of country; devotion to the welfare of one's country;
the virtues and actions of a patriot; the passion which
inspires one to serve one's country. --Berkley.
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Nationalism \Na"tion*al*ism\, n.
1. The state of being national; national attachment;
nationality.

2. An idiom, trait, or character peculiar to any nation.

3. National independence; the principles of the Nationalists.
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Not satisfying enough?
What about WordNet then?

patriotism
n : love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it [syn: nationalism]
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nationalism
n 1: love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it [syn: patriotism]
2: the doctrine that your national culture and interests are
superior to any other [ant: multiculturalism, internationalism]
3: the aspiration for national independence felt by people
under foreign domination
4: the doctrine that nations should act independently (rather
than collectively) to attain their goals [ant: internationalism]
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Nationalism can be used synonymously with patriotism. Nationalism however is a more biased version of patriotism.

I claim that you are a nationalist in sense 2.
So far you have failed to convince me otherwise.
 
You claim? Dude, a nOOb shouldn't come to a site and make claims about people, claiming to know them. I did the same thing, and people didn't like me much for that, I've learned my lesson, and feel I like and get along with most veterans of this site, I just don't like nOObs, and gain extreeme pleasure in flaming and bashing them. Again, a nationalist DOESN'T argue against his or her country, a patriot can, and on occasion, does. I am a patriot, and contrary to your proclomation, am not a nationalist. I claim that you need to learn much more.

Sorry, for the delayed reply, I had to go away for sometime, the details wouldn't really interest anyone anyhow.
 
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Wooz69 said:
It all depends on the funding and the restrictions that are applied to the people snd structures involved those three sectors. If it's well-funded, and the people involved are competent and well-paid, there's no reason for it to be inefficient.
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You'd think wouldn't you? However, in America, private schools consistantly achieve better results with less money, and the kids and teachers tend to be happier, too.
 
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