Canon ending?

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This is going to sound like a stupid question, but it's been bugging me and I can't find an answer...so what is the canon ending to fallout new vegas?
 
Different sources tell of different speculated canon endings. Doesn't Chris Avellone wants to nuke the NCR to keep the post-apocalyptic feeling?
 
Joelzania said:
Different sources tell of different speculated canon endings. Doesn't Chris Avellone wants to nuke the NCR to keep the post-apocalyptic feeling?
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It was a possibility in Van Buren but that is not canon anymore.
 
I would think that Lonesome Road had kept that option on the table.
 
Yamu said:
I would think that Lonesome Road had kept that option on the table.
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Sort off, it was more cutting the NCR presence in Nevada off from the West Coast, accelerating the eventual fall of the the NCR in the region if they did not have a clear victory at the end of the game.

Van Buren's nuclear apocalypse involved Dr Presper launching nuclear warhead armed missiles at places like Shady Sands, the Hub, Lost Hills, Vault City, Hoover Dam, Maxson Bunker and so on.
Really restarting civilization from scratch instead of slowly bleeding the NCR to death.
 
Beths rarely decides the canon endings of its own Fallout games. the endings of the F3 (a.k.a. the fate of the Capitol Wastelands) is left to the open interpretations. yet few things were certain
- The Enclave lost the war once again.
- The Lone Wanderer completed ALL Wasteland Survival Guide quests. (The Book itself did shown up in Mojave 4 years later!)

I don't think the Courier will let the Nukes off by the end of Lonesome Road. he might either spare or kill Ulysses (it's likely that he/she spared him) and sacrificed the Divide ED-E to save the world from yet-another destruction. Also I don't think Vegas will fall to any of the two warring factions, The Courier will seize it for him/her self, thus pursuing the paths of Independency.
 
Well is easier to stablish a canon ending for FO3 because there are only 3 minor variations, and adding the FEV to the water has so little incentive other than being IBOLZ that if they made that the canon endin it would be ridiculous.
 
Languorous_Maiar said:
You should realize, that nukes from LR also would hit on major NCR cities.
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That is not really clear or indicated, Ulysses' goal seemed more to destroy the connections between South California and the new Vegas region.

Sure, towns running along that road would be destroyed but Ulysses does not mention targeting the Boneyard, the Hub, or NCR itself (Shady Sands)

Same goes if you target Legion lands, no mention if the Legion's capital of Flagstaff is targeted.
 
Yeah he is only cutting trading routes and supply lines, he even says how he is slitting the bear's throat and bleeding it slowly, he never says "I am gonna just nuke Shady Sands".
 
So Lonesome road is meant to be canon? ...the ending being the death of the ncr? what comes of the legion?
 
We won't know until Obsidian makes a new Fallout game.

For all we know the Courier talked Ulysses out of launching the nuclear armed missiles and ED-E(copy) sacrificed itself.

BTW, if the player decides to join the Legion, doesn't Ulysses target the Legion's lands instead?
Never any indication that he only ever targeted NCR.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
We won't know until Obsidian makes a new Fallout game.

For all we know the Courier talked Ulysses out of launching the nuclear armed missiles and ED-E(copy) sacrificed itself.

BTW, if the player decides to join the Legion, doesn't Ulysses target the Legion's lands instead?
Never any indication that he only ever targeted NCR.
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He doesn't targeted Legion because if NCR loses, Legion will collapse because there's no enemy.
BTW if courier is on Legion's side then I can persuade him like " that isn't Legions honorable way to defeat enemy you have learned that from divide. Legion has enough power to beat the NCR so you don't have to shoot that missle.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Languorous_Maiar said:
You should realize, that nukes from LR also would hit on major NCR cities.
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That is not really clear or indicated, Ulysses' goal seemed more to destroy the connections between South California and the new Vegas region.

Sure, towns running along that road would be destroyed but Ulysses does not mention targeting the Boneyard, the Hub, or NCR itself (Shady Sands)

Same goes if you target Legion lands, no mention if the Legion's capital of Flagstaff is targeted.
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It's clear. It is said in-game, that biggest towns from NCR would be nuked...
 
"missiles fell on NCR and the Long 15 caravan route beyond the Mojave Outpost, the road the Courier had been walking when the tale began. Caravans and NCR outposts along the route were reduced to ash, an Old World gift from the Divide."

The text from the ending, Ulysses inte nds to destroy supply lines connecting the NCR to the Mojave, if it had hit major locations and the biggest towns the ending would havve said somehting like that, not just the Long 15 and outpost in it being decimated.
 
1. There is another text, when you choosing target for nukes at console and it mentions towns.

2. Also, Avellone confirmed he wants California nuked, so if nukes from LR truly hit, towns are doomed.

3. And from endings:
The Divide erupted in fire, violent, red as the last message of the two Couriers arced into the sky... The missiles rained like spears down on the land, burning flags and communities alike... destroying all they struck. The history of the West was erased for the second time, thorough and complete... and America slept once more.
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4. From your quote:
"missiles fell ON NCR and the Long 15 caravan route beyond the Mojave Outpost, the road the Courier had been walking when the tale began. Caravans and NCR outposts along the route were reduced to ash, an Old World gift from the Divide."
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5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB_LXgk-nkE - 0:04

This will launch Ulysses' missiles against targets in the heartland of the NCR, raining nuclear fire down on it cities and its people.
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;)
 
O, then I hope that doesn't become the canon ending, it would be kind of a cop out if they just reset everything. There are ways to explore under developed locations without reseting everything, with stuff like tribal regions and going back in the timeline in another region instead of always going forward in time.
 
^ It was just Allevone thoughs, Someone else though other way. yet it appears that Beths prefer that the Courier becomes the new ruler of Vegas and the Mojave. remember that one 'seer' seen in the game predicted that the Courier will eventually kill Benny, ended Mr. House regime and deny any annexation attempts by the two foreign powers.
But nukin' the entire NCR? this will only pleases the Enclave (which by 2281, they were not a big threat any longer, but who knows if they still have many tricks hidden beneaths their sleeves? Chicago outposts never been discovered (They hid very well beneaths the Midwest Brotherhood VERY nose, they would avoid fighting them altogether).

One question. Is Ulysses actually pro-Enclave? during his Jorney, he might have know what the Federal Government becomes. yet he never wear Enclave flag
 
THe enclave barely exists by the time of New Vegas.
Ulysses is not pro Enclave, he just carries the symbol of the Pre War flag because of the relevance it holds to the Divide and the events that transpired because of the Package, he is against House too which represents a less evil, but still corrupt Pre War world view. THe Enclave are even more deplorable than House in their tactics, so I don't think Ulysses would like them that much.
 
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