Clearing up the confusion

[Brother None]

Some people wanted to clear a few things up about the plot of VB. Shouldn't be anything earth shattering, but it explains some of the details more indepth and alleviates some of the "oh, this is just this-and-that game over again"-burdens:

<blockquote>The player more or less gets "jumped" by a bunch of robots while minding his own buisness at the start of the game. When the player comes to, he is in a strange prison with many other people. Your not some unique magical guy that these robots were hunting. Your just some John Doe character who gets caught up in things. Your guy is just another unlucky bastard the robots picked up. You don't have amnesia, so no Planescapey thing there either, though obviously you were blacked out for a bit.

Now the player starts to work on his escape plan, and right before his plan is complete the prison is attacked. This is not a "Unknown force rushes in to miraculously save the PC" situation. You *already* had things in hand; it's just that these dudes
happened to inter! fere with *you*. Furthermore, the people attacking the prison don't specifically care about you. Unlike in Lionheart, you aren't on the run from powerful opponents and you don't necessarily need the help in escaping - it just so happens that someone else beat you to it.

Once the attack has occurred, the PC's free to leave or stay.The prison's mainframe will eventually self-repair and start sending out retrieval bots to go grab any prisoners who wandered off (including you), but it's not a life-or-death situation. The prisons still busted up, so you can get out again if they drag you back. The robots coming after you are there just to remind you that there is a main plot. Meaning, eventually you might want to go see if you can stop these robots from coming after you or find out why they are grabbing people in the first place. Its not like they keep coming after you all game, or even most of it. So I hope you can see how its not like Lionheart or PS:T.

Although the story has familiar elements, extra care was taken to make it feel different with lots of cool twists. After all, the venerable Fallout started out as a simple "Retrieve the one artifact that will save us all" quest, which has been done to death in just about every fantasy game out there.</blockquote>

So the player is not "some special hero", nor is he being hunted by "evil forces" that are after him specifically, nor does he suffer from amnesia.

 

[God is Dog backwards]

sounds good to me. though why we're so bothered about it when the game's cancelled anyway...

 

[Role-Player]

The player more or less gets "jumped" by a bunch of robots while minding his own buisness at the start of the game.

Robot: "You are on your way to destruction. There is no chance to survive make your time."

 

[Role-Player]

What's sad is that a part of that concept i had already scrounged up for my would-be RPG project some years ago. I'd expect full-fledged RPG developers would make something more... diverse.

 

[bleusilences]

What's VB, the story sound interesting.

 

[Dove]

Okaaaaayyyyyy.

Just because your new here, VB aka Van Buren was the developement name for what was going to be Fallout 3.

 

[Kindo]

The basic introductions sounds good to me. I want this game bad.

 

[bleusilences]

Ok I though VB was a new game, instated of a person that why i was a bit confuse.

 

[Dove]

Not a person, it was the code name for Fallout 3 while it was in developement. To keep it secret.

The basic introductions sounds good to me. I want this game bad.

Don't we all.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

What, you thought I'd let you get away that easy?

Some people wanted to clear a few things up about the plot of VB. Shouldn't be anything earth shattering, but it explains some of the details more indepth and alleviates some of the "oh, this is just this-and-that game over again"-burdens: plot goes here

So is this from anyone in particular or are you just speculating or...?

Now the player starts to work on his escape plan, and right before his plan is complete the prison is attacked. This is not a "Unknown force rushes in to miraculously save the PC" situation. You *already* had things in hand;

So if that's the case, why the guys busting open the prison? OH WAIT!! IT'S CALLED PLOT! So I'm guessing these guys have something to do with the PC. Hell, if the PC really had it in hand, the PC would escape with his l33+ RPG skills.

it's just that these dudes
happened to inter! fere with *you*. Furthermore, the people attacking the prison don't specifically care about you. Unlike in Lionheart, you aren't on the run from powerful opponents and you don't necessarily need the help in escaping - it just so happens that someone else beat you to it.

Someone else who I'm guessing is going to be an integral part of the plot. Otherwise, once again, why would it happen to the PC? This is a game, all things happen for a plot reason.

Once the attack has occurred, the PC's free to leave or stay.

HAHA. No. Stay and do what, exactly? Perhaps destroy the prison so it *doesn't* send nasty robots after you?

The prison's mainframe will eventually self-repair and start sending out retrieval bots to go grab any prisoners who wandered off (including you), but it's not a life-or-death situation.

No it won't self-repair, I destroyed it. See above.

The prisons still busted up, so you can get out again if they drag you back. The robots coming after you are there just to remind you that there is a main plot.

What? A plot of annoying robots attacking me which I *can't* destroy even if I stay and wipe out the prison?

Meaning, eventually you might want to go see if you can stop these robots from coming after you

NO. I've already done that. I told you, I stayed behind (as was apparently an option) and destroyed the prison mainframe so nasty robots wouldn't come after me. I've already stopped the robots so I'm free to do whatever the hell it was I was doing before I was nabbed.

or find out why they are grabbing people in the first place. Its not like they keep coming after you all game, or even most of it. So I hope you can see how its not like Lionheart or PS:T.

No, so far it seems worse. I can't even destroy a worthless prison once and for all *after* it''s been torn open like a tin can by mystary people who must have something to do with the main plot.

So the player is not "some special hero", nor is he being hunted by "evil forces"

That's right. Because I destroyed the prison mainframe so NO MORE ROBOTS FOR ME!

nor does he suffer from amnesia.

What about the earlier "waking up in a different prison" thing?

 

[Silver]

Fine bye me, too bad it's not meant to be.

 

[kumquatq3]

I like what I have heard

DarkUnderlord: Besides for making stuff up and not thinking...good review!

 

[SimpleMinded]

Re: What, you thought I'd let you get away that easy?

Now the player starts to work on his escape plan, and right before his plan is complete the prison is attacked. This is not a "Unknown force rushes in to miraculously save the PC" situation. You *already* had things in hand;

So if that's the case, why the guys busting open the prison? OH WAIT!! IT'S CALLED PLOT! So I'm guessing these guys have something to do with the PC. Hell, if the PC really had it in hand, the PC would escape with his l33+ RPG skills.

Well in truth, I like it if it's played off right. The guy's dont have to have any connection to you at all. It shows that perhaps someone else in the prison was hoping to get some of his own connections to help him out. Robots made a bad pick on who to snatch.

Once the attack has occurred, the PC's free to leave or stay.

HAHA. No. Stay and do what, exactly? Perhaps destroy the prison so it *doesn't* send nasty robots after you?

The prison's mainframe will eventually self-repair and start sending out retrieval bots to go grab any prisoners who wandered off (including you), but it's not a life-or-death situation.

No it won't self-repair, I destroyed it. See above.

The prisons still busted up, so you can get out again if they drag you back. The robots coming after you are there just to remind you that there is a main plot.

What? A plot of annoying robots attacking me which I *can't* destroy even if I stay and wipe out the prison?

From the way it sounds, if you destroy the prison, the robots stop bugging you. I guess you missed that part. The point of them attacking you is that you do go back to the prison, destroy it, and perhaps unlock the secret to whats going on. You would then probably proceed, searching for who it was that constructed this prison.

nor does he suffer from amnesia.

What about the earlier "waking up in a different prison" thing?

Yea, wouldn't you find yourself a bit misplaced if you woke up and your no longer where you had been? It's not necessarily amnesia as you still remember your past, but when you were knocked unconscious, these robots did some relocating. So now your not without a past, your just stuck in an unfamiliar environment and forced to find a way to survive.

But yea, I like it, sounds good. I think DU here needs to chill, you sound like your just looking for reasons to whine.

 

[kumquatq3]

I don't know a ton about the plot, but I think it should be noted that this is just the start of the game. It's not like its the main plot.

 

[EyeMaster7]

I don't know a ton about the plot, but I think it should be noted that this is just the start of the game. It's not like its the main plot.

Start of what? A cancelled project? Hmm.. After FOBOShit do u think that interplay is going to have MONEY to continue the project.

 

[Mad Max RW]

It's never gonna be made anyway so what the hell difference does it make?

 

[Ancient Oldie]

It's never gonna be made anyway so what the hell difference does it make?

Yeah Kharn, you should just tell Odin to shut the site down because we're probably not going to be getting a decent FO game soon...



Anyways, the game sounds like it had a lot of potential.

As for the plot being cliched, c'mon, how many books, movies, games, stories, porns begin the same way and end up being excellent in their own rights.

 

[Mad Max RW]

I'm referring to the guys who have to complain about every single bit of the story of a game that will never be made. What's the point? And there's another guy at rpgcodex who's talking like fallout 3 is still coming out.

 

[Puuk]

@ Darkunderlord - Kharn has the basics pretty much correct. But as a lot of other people have said, since it's pretty much a dead project (or in a coma from which there is little chance of return or memory retention), not much use in dwelling over it.
*sigh*

 

[Puuk]

It's never gonna be made anyway so what the hell difference does it make?

Yeah Kharn, you should just tell Odin to shut the site down because we're probably not going to be getting a decent FO game soon...


(snip)

I don't think that's what he meant. Besides, there are plenty of other post-apocalyptic games on the horizion that deserve coverage and fan feedback.