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Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by NovaRain, Dec 3, 2008.
And here a alternative Laser SMG
Sure. Here it is.
@Vali Thanks a lot! Also I like your alternative Laser SMG and very much the Laser Sniper!
Don't hesitate to post more of your arts, if you ask me
How do you implement a laser smg or assault rifle behavior? there are no energy burst sounds. Well, except of one: 35 (#), which has the pulse pistol shot combined with an analog smg burst, but I'm not sure if it is in in the original game..
I have many new weapons and items, making by myself.
Yeah laser smg and laser rifle look good, because there are fallout style only combine pictures.
What you think about the Laser Machine Gun? I think so it must look. The problem i have with the fallout online one, it looks more like a alternative laser rifle with extended capacity, not like a machine gun.
You are wrong, the plasma gun from frank horrigan have single and burst sound.
Archangel Combat Armor
Police Laser Pistol
Ok, true. But for me these sounds are more suited for plasma or cannon behavior or very heavy MG, than (smaller) laser shots.
Well, I like your Laser Machine Gun, but more as a weapon of itself. To me it looks like a Laser Cannon Variant. With the handle, it is more close to the heavy weapon frame in the game indeed.
If you ask me, the Laser Support Weapon from F:Onlline really does its job. In close look, especially in direct comparison, it has a handle and is double-barrelled in addition to a more bulky cassis. Luv it I must say. I gave it a strongly reduced AP cost in addition to also reduced dmg, to give the impression of a fast shooting weapon of support and it really hits the pot.
Here is their Laser SMG
. As I said, I like your way more, as it sticks more closely to the original tone. This one here looks like a very advanced, almost alien design.
Your Ripper Spear and Police Laser Pistol kick a**!
If its your idea, that the spear has a running ripper, I would suggest, adding some more machinery, maybe like F:Nevada's Electro Spear has:
The sound from Frank Horrigans Plasma Gun fit good for Laser weapons.
Look at the Laser Rifle and the Laser Rifle with expanded Capacity, and then their Laser Support Weapon then you see what i mean. They have only mix the Sniper, Laser Rifle.
Yeah my laser SMG is original art changing, and their only download pic from internet and convert to frm.
I dont like the Spear from Nevada this is not anymore Fallout, looks like from Stargate series the Weapons from Gua Ulds.
What was wrong with Fallout 2’s Weapons?
Nothing is wrong with them. For me, they are just too few in the game for a good choice of variants or a smooth escalation of power.
Well, besides small arms, there are just very few unarmed, melee, energy weapons, throwing ones and, hell - even big guns.
Unarmed f.e. escalates from rocks, brass knuckles, over spiked knuckles (both almost useless compared to the special fist attacks) to power fist and mega power fist. Thats all! No mid-game versions, even no dmg-variants like electro-, flame-, shotgun- or emp-fist. And with that comes lack of critter equipment and therefore variation too.
You could say the same for low level energy weapons and even melee. Sledge > Super Sledge, Spear > Sharp Spear,... what can you give a mid-game spear-critter like the lady in metal armor and yellow pyjamas? Or a hammer-wielding guy? The restriction of most critters to just a few animations was the first reason I started to make new weapons to fill in the gaps. Next one was to advance weapon choices, develop underused weapon classes and last - added more mad max style weapons 'cause this is the right game for them! 8)
And it's so much fun. In the world of fallout, everything can be a weapon. From a broken bottle, over a machete from a rusty lawn mower blade to a nuka cola sign which serves as a hammer...
Just to mention some
Oh, I was thinking of small guns, the type of build I usually do. A mid game fist weapon would be good.
Also I like your Laser SMG design/idea. Sulik would do good with that
@Vali, did you notice the change of color in some of your frms? I did in the crossbow and laser-smg frms you sent me. The sceenshot with your smg in the temple shows me that you seem to face the same issue.
seems that mostly yellow gets changed to reddish when converted bmp into frm format with FrameAnimator. Doesn't happen with every bmp but when it happens it does consistently. Does anyone knows this behavior and even more, what it causes?
However, I managed to fix it with slightly changing color of the effected pixels, manually. You will find them in the download attached.
Moreover, I tried to convert your amazing Ripper Spear image into frm and always got this, no matter what I did.
these ugly white dots resiliently kept appearing after every copy-paste-transfer-and-convert attempt. Even more FrameAnimator didn't even manage to cut its shape and kept the whole square around colored in white or black.
So I decided to make one myself.
I've put it into the folder too.
So anyone any idea what causes this behavior?
Vali won't be able to respond anymore. He suffered brain failure which resulted in him getting banned.
About the broken colors - you should convert the image in photoshop / gimp to the correct colors with slight dithering before importing the graphic into FRM Animator. This will give much better results.
Oh. Guess I've seen him ranting in an other thread. Well, rules are rules..
Ah I'll try this, thank you!
Go to the original file and expand the image size by 1 pixel on all sides (from 120x140 pixels to 121x141 pixels)...make sure the background colour surrounding the object is 100% blue (R=0, G=0, B=255), not white, blue is the alpha colour.
When converting the image in Frame Animator the program looks for the alpha in the top left hand corner, if it finds B=255 then it treats all of B=255 as the alpha (masking) and you get a clean crop of the image, if it finds another colour then it uses that colour as the alpha and you get an image with holes in it, like the spear.
Or just make the top left pixel blue. :p
Players likely won't notice.
What happened to our favorite autistic member Vali...any link to his final fight with the moderators?
Nah. He started spamming user profiles with insults and that's that. Stuff is deleted now.
Some of Fallout Sonora unused weapon/items sprites: