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Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by Gnarles Bronson, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Ben Soto

    Ben Soto Professional Salt Shaker

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    Jul 7, 2014
    Wait, seriously? Let me try. http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Power_armor

    EDIT: Wow, that's a dick move. @Hassknecht , what's going on here?
     
  2. Risewild

    Risewild Antediluvian as Feck
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    That is a cheap trick alright.
    I don't think any staff would have made it... Unless it was Tagaziel, since he has the highest admin powers in NMA and is involved with Fallout gamepedia and there is an old rivalry between Fallout Gamepedia and Wikia :confused:. But still I find hard to believe he would do that.
     
  3. NMLevesque

    NMLevesque Commie Ghost

    618
    Jul 2, 2016
    That's kind of funny actually. I stopped using wikia when it was temporarily broken due to those stupid surveys that wouldn't load right. That and it has a shit tonne of scripts to it takes annoyingly long to load properly. Still though, sometimes I check it and find things that weren't on the gamepedia page.
     
  4. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Carbon Dated and Proud

    Nov 26, 2007
    Do you know the story behind the two wiki's?

    I didn't know about the redirect, but it's not at all surprising to me.
     
  5. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    There was a word censor in place that changed every Nukapedia link to The Vault. It's fixed now.
     
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  6. a721402

    a721402 Played FPS for decades still suck at it.

    744
    Mar 29, 2016
    Tagaziel used to be an admin of Nukapedia, he was kicked in later 2012 because his contempt for Nukapedia, offense behavior to other editors, and his abuse of admin rights.
     
  7. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Carbon Dated and Proud

    Nov 26, 2007
    That's one of them (I suppose; and that makes sense too), but I was thinking about Pawel Dembowski; aka "Ausir".
     
  8. Ben Soto

    Ben Soto Professional Salt Shaker

    731
    Jul 7, 2014
    http://fallout.wikia.com/Power_armor

    EDIT: Yay, it works now.
     
  9. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    885
    Jul 30, 2009
    Why would it matter if there was a redirect? It's essentially the same info in both sites, no?
     
  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Apparently not, as evidenced by the exchange above.
    But even then, people should be able to link to whatever wiki they want.
     
  11. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    885
    Jul 30, 2009
    Ah, sure. I just didn't get the "Wow, what a dick move!" reaction.
     
  12. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Dunno, putting a word censor in place to force people to use the wiki you're working on kinda is a dick move.
     
  13. Atomkilla

    Atomkilla Hazel Hegemon oTO Orderite

    Dec 26, 2010
    The Vault is (or at least was, dunno anymore) headed by people who headed the original wiki (also called The Vault), before the schism which came for whatever reason. IIRC Ausir, who created the wikia, was also a figure on Wikipedia before parting ways unamicably.
    Regardless, The Vault was for a while a better wikia than Nukapedia - easier to browse, with at least ounce of dedication to older games. It also lacked any flashy shite that served no purpose.

    Dunno how The Vault fares nowadays. Not that I care anyway. I made 1000+ edits on it, back in the day, and I really liked the whole thing. But that's in the past, my dedication to Fallout is long gone.

    Also, I find it really funny and ironic that Tagaziel censored something. Wait, I actually don't.
     
  14. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    885
    Jul 30, 2009
    I don't know why the forumite should care which of the wiki's is allowed and which isn't other than possible personal reasons for boycotting the allowed site. The only "dick" move in this particular case that I see was to not have it spelled out that one is allowed and the other isn't, that it needed to be found out by accident.

    Anyways... The situation's over and I don't really care anyway beyond these couple of posts.
     
  15. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Staff Member Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    Aug 16, 2010
    Sometimes there's information on one wiki that's not on the other.
    And it's not the place of the staff to decide which wiki is to be used, especially not for a single admin without checking with the rest of the staff.
    But if you don't have a problem with being told what to think, you won't mind me telling you that you're wrong ;)
     
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  16. Kohno

    Kohno Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    885
    Jul 30, 2009
    "Being told what to think" is a bit out of context here. But fair enough.
     
  17. Black Angel

    Black Angel Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus

    Mar 21, 2016
    Just look at my post in previous page. There are essentially same info in both sites, yes, but the presentation is different that NMLevesque stated that he didn't see the 5 points I quoted, because those 5 points are only displayed in the Wikia, while Gamepedia didn't. Imagine what would happen with future sourcing of such links.

    Personally, I go to Gamepedia only for the dialogue texts, but the Wikia is more friendly to my eyes (black texts on white background vs. green texts on dark background).
     
  18. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Wait, what? Seriously? Whoever implemented that censor really isn't doing any of the discussions a favor (I'm pretty sure people have been sourcing Nukapedia for some points at times, I know I have at least).

    I get the feeling the censor could be Tagaziel's doing (with his history with Nukapedia in mind) but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since the issue's resolved.
     
  19. Einhanderc7

    Einhanderc7 Vat dipped, grown and still oozing with perfection

    858
    Apr 22, 2016
    Having 2 sources that state similar information does no one any good. From my perspective I think all reference sites are tainted by someone else's rosy goggles on how they viewed the material. Until proven otherwise of course.

    Also having someone who is notably unstable having authority over such a source forces me to automatically rule it out as viable.
     
  20. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Dogmeat

    Nov 22, 2009
    You're a winner. You're also special. A special winner.