Don't double past.
And have you tried reinstalling the game?
And have you tried reinstalling the game?
Crashing Fallout I - Cathedral level 3
- Thread starter Saturn1
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Er, yeah. About five times...all the different sizes of installation.
Does anyone know of a way of transporting a character from one area to another? Maybe the problem comes from the elevator itself, and not the entire area. Or could someone better explain the map replacing technique? The master.dat I extracted didn't have the files I need to replace the ones in my save file.
EDIT: I tried installing the DOS version to get to the third level, and I was actually able to. I saved on the third floor and went back to the windows version, but it crashed as soon as I tried to load it.
I could only play the DOS version with DOSBox, but it's still completely unplayable. It took about ten minutes to start the game up and load it. That's with cycles running at 15k...any higher and the game wouldn't get past the loading screen. Is there a better way to make the DOS version work? If there is, I could just play the rest of the game in DOS.
EDIT2: I went into the desert and made camp, where I promptly shot all of my companions and dropped all of my equipment, including my 50k+ caps. I did this because I assumed that the items would be deleted from the game as soon as I left the temporary area. I went back empty handed save my armour and plasma rifle, and the crash still happened. I don't know if this means anything, but there it is.
Does anyone know of a way of transporting a character from one area to another? Maybe the problem comes from the elevator itself, and not the entire area. Or could someone better explain the map replacing technique? The master.dat I extracted didn't have the files I need to replace the ones in my save file.
EDIT: I tried installing the DOS version to get to the third level, and I was actually able to. I saved on the third floor and went back to the windows version, but it crashed as soon as I tried to load it.
I could only play the DOS version with DOSBox, but it's still completely unplayable. It took about ten minutes to start the game up and load it. That's with cycles running at 15k...any higher and the game wouldn't get past the loading screen. Is there a better way to make the DOS version work? If there is, I could just play the rest of the game in DOS.
EDIT2: I went into the desert and made camp, where I promptly shot all of my companions and dropped all of my equipment, including my 50k+ caps. I did this because I assumed that the items would be deleted from the game as soon as I left the temporary area. I went back empty handed save my armour and plasma rifle, and the crash still happened. I don't know if this means anything, but there it is.
The DOS version is hard to find, but I can tell you from experience that unless you have a spare computer with Windows 98/95 on it...it won't be much of a help. Like I said, I was able to get reach the third floor (*GASP!*), but the game was essentially unplayable. I do a LOT of old PC game emulation with DOSBox, and I couldn't find a single workaround for this. I think Fallout DOS is too "new" for DOSBox.
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The DOS version is automatically included on *every* CD. It just uses the Fallout.exe instead of Falloutw.exe. It's about as hard to find as your own feet if you own Fallout.
The DOS version is automatically included on *every* CD. It just uses the Fallout.exe instead of Falloutw.exe. It's about as hard to find as your own feet if you own Fallout.
FeelTheRads
Vault Senior Citizen
Again, I'll recommend VirtualPC from Microsoft.
Just install DOS with it and everything is fine.
DOSBox sucks! The system requirements are absurd.
Just install DOS with it and everything is fine.
DOSBox sucks! The system requirements are absurd.
No, that's logical. You're running an Operating System *on* another Operating System. This will always cost you a lot more resources than running the OS on the machine itself.FeelTheRads said:
FeelTheRads
Vault Senior Citizen
But, isn't running DOS in VirtualPC also running an OS on another OS?
You can very well switch back to your default OS, or run VirtualPC in a window.
Plus, on a decent (say above 2Ghz) computer you can very well run Windows XP on Windows XP if you want.
The only redeeming thing about DOSBox is that it takes care of the stuff old games need, like EMS memory, sound and all that, while in real DOS, you have to deal with that.
VirtualPC virtualises the CPU, while DOSBox fully emulates it. This is a significant difference, allowing DOSBox to be completely unreliant on the system it's running on, at the cost of speed.FeelTheRads said:
No, you can't, not on an emulator.FeelTheRads said:
Do they have Virtual PC for Win 98? I only seem to be able to find versions for Mac and NT/XP/Vista/etc. If it can run Win 95 games with lower system requirements than DOSBox I would be interested.
I am having a hell of a time trying to get this Virtual PC thing to work. I keep getting a "Reboot and select proper boot device" error. I've looked at a few guides, but nothing's helped.
If anyone knows a quick way to get this to work, I'd be grateful. I've tried using Win98 and Win2000 in VirtualPC but they both do the same thing.
If anyone knows a quick way to get this to work, I'd be grateful. I've tried using Win98 and Win2000 in VirtualPC but they both do the same thing.
The Claw's post was a life saver:
I am running 1.3.2 teamx unofficial patch and had the Cathedral Level 3 crash problem as described by several people in this topic.
I replaced 08vats.acm with a renamed copy of 06vault.acm and the crashes stopped. I tested by speaking with Morpheus and thus teleporting to the Master and going through the basement and descending by elevator.
So, I guess it should work for everybody having the same problem.
Thanx Claw, you saved me a lot of time. (actually I had started a new game with the 1.1 official patch and had to scavenge with a data recovery software for my "forever" deleted saves).
I am running 1.3.2 teamx unofficial patch and had the Cathedral Level 3 crash problem as described by several people in this topic.
I replaced 08vats.acm with a renamed copy of 06vault.acm and the crashes stopped. I tested by speaking with Morpheus and thus teleporting to the Master and going through the basement and descending by elevator.
So, I guess it should work for everybody having the same problem.
Thanx Claw, you saved me a lot of time. (actually I had started a new game with the 1.1 official patch and had to scavenge with a data recovery software for my "forever" deleted saves).
boglavius said:
Gnap! Gnap!
It means you didn't read the forum descriptions. This is for strictly unmodified games. A modded game could have any kinds of map problems that only the modder in question could effectively investigate.
Guilty as charged, as for:
kindda strange that it worked for me though right? There must be something there, just can't figure it out. Anyways, just wondering, playing with the DOS version fallout.exe in WindowsXP SP2 could be the way to go if this doesn't work? I mean, I gut it running (no sound because I couldn't figure that out) but this is only for the unmodded version 1.1 and I don't have a savegame for that to test it with.
Off topic (for those who know): is the Team-X mod worth playing or the standard v 1.1 patched version? All I want is as bug-free as the game can get without affecting its true spirit. [/list]
Fallout 1 Cathedral Crash - At Wits End
So I have searched and read through everything I could find about the cathedral crash, I have tried a few things...
Replacing the map files in my save game folder with fresh ones off the master.dat
replacing the audio files
running the game in compatability mode
punching babies
Nothing works! and the other posts dont seem to have a clear solution to this problem.
I am running win xp pro, have the latest directx 9.0c or so with an nvidia 7600
I am willing to do anything from hex editing to listening to barbara streissan(?) music to get this to work... please anyone... do you have a solution?
So I have searched and read through everything I could find about the cathedral crash, I have tried a few things...
Replacing the map files in my save game folder with fresh ones off the master.dat
replacing the audio files
running the game in compatability mode
punching babies
Nothing works! and the other posts dont seem to have a clear solution to this problem.
I am running win xp pro, have the latest directx 9.0c or so with an nvidia 7600
I am willing to do anything from hex editing to listening to barbara streissan(?) music to get this to work... please anyone... do you have a solution?
I imagine this is the same as this topic
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6911&highlight=cathedral+crash
Merging, then.
Replacing maps that way would solve nothing, but crash your game, IMO - you'd best load a "good" save game, then go to /data/maps and copy the uncompessed files from there to a temp folder
Then load the current save and replace the uncompressed maps
Unless the problem is iwth the map you're on, in which case you're screwed.
It'd be best if you had a save to revert to.
http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6911&highlight=cathedral+crash
Merging, then.
Replacing maps that way would solve nothing, but crash your game, IMO - you'd best load a "good" save game, then go to /data/maps and copy the uncompessed files from there to a temp folder
Then load the current save and replace the uncompressed maps
Unless the problem is iwth the map you're on, in which case you're screwed.
It'd be best if you had a save to revert to.