DaC article: Mismatch Corner of Angst

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DaC has posted a short editorial that is a bit odd (angsty?) in nature, but could possibly reflect the feelings of a number of Fallout fans:<blockquote>As many of you may understand, this unsettles many of us. How can a company that has not released a single RPG in quite a while manage to release a worthy sequel to one of the best cRPG franchises in history?

Bethesda's main audience is eight to twelve year old kids, (or people on that mental level) and their games bloody well reflect it. How are we supposed to trust a company that clearly states that they intend to release FO3 to this audience too?

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Maybe you shouldn't have resurrected it just to kill it off again. Why buy a licence only to make a game totally different from the series? The whole idea of a series of games is to stay on the same track, keep the canon and stay with the same atmosphere. Bethesda has shown us that they won't. By aiming towards the xbox and, mostly, by saying things like: "We'll do what we do best."

Why didn't they just create a new PA universe. Create their own game.
It might have been good. Who am I kidding? It might have been decent. Or playable for a week or so.

But buying FO3 just for hype creation and marketing purposes is bloody sneaky. We will remember this.</blockquote>Link: Duck and Cover article: Mismatch's Corner of Angst
 
Why the fuck did they made an article out of that ? I mean what was the point ? Anybody who reads the forums for like five minutes can see that most fans share this point of view but it is far from being new. Also, I think that it was a dumb thing to do after the rather well written NMA article about fallout fans...Did King of Creation just committed suicide after writing it ? Man...
 
MrBumble said:
Why the fuck did they made an article out of that ? I mean what was the point ?
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Well, we like to have community input. It's called CONTENT.

Anybody who reads the forums for like five minutes can see that most fans share this point of view but it is far from being new.
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So?

Also, I think that it was a dumb thing to do after the rather well written NMA article about fallout fans...Did King of Creation just committed suicide after writing it ? Man...
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I didn't write it, ass. If you took the time to carefully read it, you would have clearly seen that MISMATCH wrote it. HENCE MISMATCH'S CORNER OF ANGST. If I was going to write something, it would say "Words from the King" or something.

Mismatch saw the NMA thing, and felt that he wanted to contribute something to keep the community interested. I'm sorry if you didn't like it, but stop being so ignorant.
 
Well there are a bit of a difrence between these two articles so i dont really think its stupid.
 
Hey Mr. Bumble is my main man, don't you go all mean to him!

Having said that KoC is right (hihihihhi, I said KoC) , although it is a bit too short.
 
It's nothing new, but it's an article not a news right?

I think it's ok, more logical argumetation why Bethesda sux means more people who will notice that when looking for Fallout info considering the production of F3 :)
 
Briosafreak said:
Having said that KoC is right (hihihihhi, I said KoC) , although it is a bit too short.
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Yar, I thought it should be longer. And also with less DaC style dadaism but otherwise it's good. Good to have another view, a more extreme one.
 
readable article, but you shouldn't discriminate against funny disabled people by comparing them to ZERO-IQ-XBOX players, thats not fair!
be ashamed King of Creation!
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Bethesda's main audience is eight to twelve year old kids, (or people on that mental level) and their games bloody well reflect it. How are we supposed to trust a company that clearly states that they intend to release FO3 to this audience too?
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hmmm - heavy guns
FO 3 will be 'M' - so 8 or 12 year old kiddies aren't Beth's audience for FO3.
But Beth's policy at TES series shows that such argumentation isn't too far beyond reality.
 
taxacaria said:
hmmm - heavy guns
FO 3 will be 'M' - so 8 or 12 year old kiddies aren't Beth's audience for FO3.
But Beth's policy at TES series shows that such argumentation isn't too far beyond reality.
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Just because it's M, doesn't mean tha it 8-12 year olds aren't their target audience...
 
taxacaria said:
FO 3 will be 'M' - so 8 or 12 year old kiddies aren't Beth's audience for FO3.
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So?
- Oblivion is M and was planned as T which is 12+... 8 to 12 is a manner of saying...
 
Morbus said:
taxacaria said:
FO 3 will be 'M' - so 8 or 12 year old kiddies aren't Beth's audience for FO3.
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So?
- Oblivion is M and was planned as T which is 12+... 8 to 12 is a manner of saying...
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Fallout 3 FAQ said:
Fallout 2 was rated 15+ (not for immature audience) - will this trend continue with Fallout 3?
Pete Hines: It's going to be a mature game, that's always been the plan.

While I was overjoyed to hear that Fallout 3 is being given a second lease on life, I am curious about your target ESRB rating. Many gamers still remember that Morrowind was developed as a Teen rated sequel to a historically Mature series, and there is a growing concern that you may do the same to Fallout. Considering that the Fallout franchise has been mature themed in the extreme, what are currently your plans for the game as far as content (ESRB) is concerned?
Pete Hines: Right now we aren't prepared to talk about specifics. I wouldn't worry about the ESRB thing.

So is it safe to say that we can count on the more mature elements remaining intact?
Pete Hines: I would hope so. We don't plan to strip out important elements that made Fallout what it is. We want to remain true to the experience that made Fallout, well, Fallout.
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That are the only available infos I have.
OK - maybe it's marketing blah blah, but who knows?

As I wrote above, I've seen where the TES series has arrived - at a kiddie iq xbox compatible Oblivion - but no one ever expected TES IV to become a real 'M' game like FO2. Compared with Daggerfall it's 'C'.


by the way - T or M doesn't says anything about brain requirements
 
taxacaria said:
by the way - T or M doesn't says anything about brain requirements
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Absofuckin'lutely!

I finished playing Condemned: Criminal Origins (rated M) a few days back... Only worthwhile puzzle was trying to figure out what the sentence "the dark path to righteousness is beyond what you see yourself to be" means... Not much of a challenge eh? Wait til you hear what happened next. Looking around the house for a mirror, PC's cell phone rings... Guess what? Woman on the other side explains that she figured out the riddle and you will find a secret passage behind the mirror...

Simply great!!!! And now your game solves the puzzles for you!!!!

That brought a big question mark to my head; what are the devs of nowadays market thinking? Do they think gamers are simply retarded? Or gamers have really become that retarded?

Well indeed Condemned was crossproduced with X-Box... But I was expecting a little challenge on the puzzles when I saw the M rating... After all this is not a game meant to be for 8-12 years old...

P.S. : On second thought TV indeed makes people stupid...
 
8 or 12 year old kiddies aren't Beth's audience for FO3.
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Definitely, one of the pastimes i had with my kid for a while was seeing who would find the most ludicrous Oblivion AI movies in the net, he would roll over on the floor with the things we found :)

He even convinced a 12 year old friend of him to try the game and report the silly things he would find, and then he would report to me. We had a great time for a while! :)

So there are 11 and 12 years old kids who would only get the game to mock it, that's for sure :)

And to be fair I've seen quite a few X-Box gamers complaining about the AI, the levelling, mini games and downloadable content rip-off. Not the majority, but that's a sign there's intelligent life on that side too.

Anyway the target audience will be 16 to 20 american white males, and that's a safe financial bet. That's the target of many games, so it doesn't say a lot. Or maybe it does, we'll see.
 
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