Desslock gives Fallout 3 some grades

Brother None

This ghoul has seen it all
Orderite
Desslock has finally returned to his "5 points Fallout 3 has to get right" that he originally stated in late 2006. The grades, plus snips, with the big disclaimer that he grades whether or not they appear in the game, not how well done they are (because he doesn't know yet):<blockquote>1) Get the combat system right.
(...)
I still have reservations about the combat system. Bethesda wasn't ready to demonstrate melee combat, an important part of a game stocked with sledgehammer-toting super-mutants: hopefully, combat that doesn't use VATS won't just feel like Oblivion's sword battles. You can lob mini-tactical nukes at enemies, which could generate a lot of destructive fun, but hopefully, they'll be sufficiently rare and only used at long range, or battles will devolve into absurd parodies. Still, I'm cautiously optimistic.
Grade: B-

2) Don't use Oblivion's difficulty scaling
(...)
Grade: A-

3) Keep it dark and violent
There's a Blood Mess perk and plenty o' graphic violence, along with slavers and suggestions of other adult-themed content, but there won't be any killable children or the ability to demote your wife into whoredom. Given current legal attitudes toward games, I think we're getting as much as we could reasonably expect here, but I still feel the world will come across as less grim and more sanitized than I'd like in a Fallout game.
Violence grade: A+; Dark/Adult content: C-

4) Ensure we can create unique characters
(...)
Grade: B

5) Create your own vision
(...)
Grade: B+</blockquote>He adds in an image subscript:<blockquote>Smacking rats in the groin may have been a somewhat nonsensical quirk in the original Fallout games, but it was a fun nonsensical quirk. Screw realism - it was one of the distinctive features of Fallout that I'll miss.</blockquote>Thanks Stag.
 
Uncle None said:
Violence grade: A+; Dark/Adult content: C-

Though may be grading on a very flat curve, that's the most accurate description of the vague feelings I have been having for some time. The whole "violence doesn't automatically equate gritty" thing, which makes me feel we'll have great loads of violence, but not a well-built, dark world.

Another good one from Desslock.
 
2) Don't use Oblivion's difficulty scaling
(...)
Grade: A-

I note this one because it has nothing to do with Fallout... this is a hold-over from Oblivion concerns, was never part of Fallout, and never was going to be... Might as well say

"Don't use Oblivion character stats" [A+ they are using the SPECIAL system]

I'd rather see this gimme item replaced with... say...

Keep dialogue varied and influenced by stats / skills / gender / clothing / perks.

(Which at this point I'd give a C+) [No dumb dialogue, only reference to the Good/Evil/Neutral a-la KOTOR. No info on the extent skills will impact dialogue]

Edit: Yes, I know this was an unknown factor when Desslock wrote the piece, but really, level-scaling > Getting Dialogue right? Nope, level-scaling can be patched, dialogue not so much...
 
Desslock said:
4) Ensure we can create unique characters
(...)
Grade: B

B? Maybe them implementing the Oblivion "face" thing brought this down a bit.

ivpiter said:
"Don't use Oblivion character stats" [A+ they are using the SPECIAL system]

So, what? Your A+ acquits to Desslock's B... I believe the original Fallout system had near infinite possibilities of unique characters, so what did Beth mess up on now? Or is the SPECIAL system, in conjunction with traits, and skills no longer extraordinary?

Anywho, it's nice to get a reliable source of first hand insight.
 
He only notes it's back and will be important, and influences actions and dialogue, but that dumb dialogue is out. He doesn't explain the B further.
 
Pipboy2000 said:
So, what? Your A+ acquits to Desslock's B...

I was using that line as an e.g. not a cf.

What you said would read fine if it had been, "So, what? Your A+ equates to Desslock's A-... ,"

Edit: Just noticed he actually gave an A- to the "Don't use Oblivion level scaling", not sure where the B came from...
 
Ah. I could've typed it up, I suppose.

Erm, so this is the first time I've seen anyone in the press being even a little negative about the fatman, and Desslock clearly understands what's wrong with it. Maybe there's hope. (For journalism.)
 
This coming from the next PC Gamer issue? Just wondering 'cause I haven't gotten it in the mail yet. Kinda funny how Fallout-centric Desslock's column has been, but they must not be too concerned with single-game columns since they basically gave Richard Garriott one to talk about his new MMO every month. Still, it'd be kinda nice if they gave him a page or two for Fallout 3 mini-previews/updates/whatever you wanna call 'em, then his RPG page for whatever else strikes his fancy.
 
Yeah, I just got it, and dashed for the scanner, because I'm an attention whore, and love having my name in the news.

Yeah, I love Desslock, wish he had a real bit of space.
 
That'd be nice. Faster/more updates than the magazine, and leaves his RPG page for other random RPG thoughts.

Plus maybe he could talk Bethesda into being more open with fan webpages. As much as I kinda defend them and Fallout 3 I do admit they're a bit shitty on the fanpage side.
 
Why are Pipboy's nipples located on his collar bones?

It would be cool. Kharn, email desslock! (rushes to scanner to find his email address, which he likely does not respond to.)


alternatelives@pcgamer.com

C'mon, Unca!
 
Stag said:
You're not posting the whole thing?
A mysterious agency began forwarding any scans posted by us to the legal department of the magazine from which the scans originated. Needless to say, this causes some amount of trouble, and forces the scans to be removed anyway.
 
Tannhauser said:
Stag said:
You're not posting the whole thing?
A mysterious agency began forwarding any scans posted by us to the legal department of the magazine from which the scans originated. Needless to say, this causes some amount of trouble, and forces the scans to be removed anyway.

Who could have done such a thing?!? i wonder...
 
Tannhauser said:
Stag said:
You're not posting the whole thing?
A mysterious agency began forwarding any scans posted by us to the legal department of the magazine from which the scans originated. Needless to say, this causes some amount of trouble, and forces the scans to be removed anyway.

Need I be worried?
 
Stag said:
Need I be worried?

So tempted for the pyramid....

Sending them in an email is tangible proof, but whatevs.

Desslock said:
Smacking rats in the groin may have been a somewhat nonsensical quirk in the original Fallout games, but it was a fun nonsensical quirk. Screw realism - it was one of the distinctive features of Fallout that I'll miss.

I see he is just as upset about them removing the groin from targeted shots as we are.
 
ivpiter said:
2) Don't use Oblivion's difficulty scaling
(...)
Grade: A-

I note this one because it has nothing to do with Fallout... this is a hold-over from Oblivion concerns, was never part of Fallout, and never was going to be...
Considering that there is a level scalling at all the note should be C- at most.

All those notes are stupid. Look at the first point, he doesn't say anything good about the combat system, barely says anything about it. Instead he expresses some concerns. Still, he gives B- because he's optimistic.
 
Back
Top