EA to require gamers to pay to play online games

Now, there is no good defense for buying EA Sports games.

Which only leaves the giant flaming shitpile that will succeed because Maddentards are stupid.
 
Doesn't affect me at all. Almost every game I buy is below the price EB games used game price.
 
i dont get it...


EA was a large part of what ended computer game "renting" and valve really finished it off.

why do these console people think they wouldnt do it eventually?

hell, i knew EA would be spearheading the charge to eliminate 2nd hand console game sales/renting.

they did it to computer games.


i remember renting multiple computer games in the early to mid 90s at our local store. back when only aficionados were playing computer games and people who loved it. now its everyone doing it. and now we have paid-for-internet-accounts and single-use-cd-keys and other such "innovations" that killed computer game 2nd hand sales and re-selling.


seriously, after EA and valve and other computer game companies fucked over the PC market, what makes you think they wouldnt do it to consoles?

you couldnt seriously have not expected this. your own little world couldnt be that idyllic right?

wow, i guess the term "consoletard" does apply :)
 
I just buy things on Steam and give people my login information.


Gaming will die due to the fact that people will eventually stop buying these "AAA titles" that cost millions of dollars.

I can make a level without 500 gigs of textures bump mapping, HDR bloom and Liam neeson cameos. All I need is the quake 3 engine and a few hours.


I mean, if you run out of ideas for games you should probably stop firing people who don't suck corporate cock for money in your gaming studio.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
Now, there is no good defense for buying EA Sports games.
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Yes there is. They're fun games. Which is what I buy games for: to have fun. Now I just have to figure out whether an extra $10 is what I value the multiplayer part at.
 
What happend to those good old times when I bought a game, instaled it, played the champaign and multiplayer and was happy.

Now you need accounts, online registrations, or third party software (yay windows life ... which I dont need but HAVE to install ...), rockstar social crap or what ever other stuff that even might force you to stay online. Not to mention the usual copy protection that might fuck your PC sometimes cause of the way they infest your system.
 
It's a conspiracy of the U.S. govt for us to actually stand up, put on the shoes, and play the game with your friends.

At your local pitch.
 
That's it. I'm fucking done. No Activision and no EA games for me. I'm going through my collection and selling them all. These guys are fucking assholes and I will not stand for it.
 
OakTable said:
That's it. I'm fucking done. No Activision and no EA games for me. I'm going through my collection and selling them all. These guys are fucking assholes and I will not stand for it.
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Meh, these two companies have been acting like this for a long time..

It's just getting worse and worse though....

:x
 
thats a good thing though. It means eventualy that a colapse of the gaming buisness isnt that far away eventaly ?

Dunno have to get rid somehow of those EAs, Ubisofts, activisions and bethesdas that make souless money machines and not games.

Might be hard in the begining but it will prove to be good for the future ! More independ developers and smaller companies that care about their fanbase.
 
I honestly don't see why people get so outraged about this... hell, Blizzard and other PC companies did this with things like CD-Keys and whatnot... besides, if you buy a new game this doesn't affect you at all.
 
rcorporon said:
I honestly don't see why people get so outraged about this... hell, Blizzard and other PC companies did this with things like CD-Keys and whatnot... besides, if you buy a new game this doesn't affect you at all.
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This.

This is the second thread here that just blabs about EA's anti-used game policies without showing any depth or understanding of it. Get this already: day-1 free DLC is anti-used games. Free online play tied to the first license purchaser is anti-used games. Neither impacts buying new games at all. "EA to require gamers to pay to play online games" is an outright fabrication.

It's not that I agree with EA's policies, but:
a) I get where they're coming from and making shit up isn't going to help, is it?
b) I don't buy used games anymore. I only purchase DD anyway and usually wait for discounts to hit.
I seriously wonder how many people who kneejerk rage at this even buy used games, I wonder?
 
This is not the same as CD keys as CD keys just restrict the number online at a time (1 CD key online at a time, unlimited LAN play); however, this is similar to what Valve does with Steam as I'm pretty sure you cannot regift a game that has been gifted to you on Steam. Actually I'm pretty sure that Blizzard is planning on doing something similar with their new B.net which links CD keys to accounts but we'll have to wait and see. The way that Blizzard used to do it on B.net and the way Valve used to do it (1 CD key online at a time) was preferable as it doesn't fuck people in the secondhand market. Will this hurt piracy? Sure, but it'll also make used EA games that much less valuable (which, I'm sure, is part of the plan). Too me this just seems like an invitation to "pirate" their game and then pay them $10 for online play.

That all assumes that pirates don't figure out a work around, which is a big if. Hell, it sounds like they are just adding an activation code (which there will be key gens for) on top of the CD key. We'll see how long it takes for pirates to subvert their new DRM.[/code]
 
You already cannot play with pirated games online on consoles, since playing pirated games requires modding a console, and modded consoles get fucked pretty easily when they try to log on to the console networks.
So that's a non-issue.

This move is aimed purely at killing the secondhand market.
 
Brother None said:
It's not that I agree with EA's policies, but:
a) I get where they're coming from and making shit up isn't going to help, is it?
b) I don't buy used games anymore. I only purchase DD anyway and usually wait for discounts to hit.
I seriously wonder how many people who kneejerk rage at this even buy used games, I wonder?
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I buy used games usualy, on either amazon, ebay or from friends.

What actualy really disturbs me is not the fact that game companies today use accounts, perma-online-slap-in-your-gamer-face-systems or other similar approaches to protect their games. But that some seem to see second hand games as "almost" criminal. I think someone said that a used game is changing 3 or 4 times its owner before a new game is sold. So the publishers and game developers loose like 3 or 4 potential consumers. Wot! Money goes aways! We have to stop that! Criminal scum how can they not buy ourz games!

I know thats a bit exagerated but it somehow leaves a bitter taste in my mouth when thinking about it. I can remember a time when most companies or at least I thought so maybe I am just naive cared not only about earnings but also about their consumers and where it was usual to give your community sometimes "gifts" in form of maps, small skins an extra quest (see the Witcher for example) for FREE!. And most important user-friendly software and not third party account stuff you have to install for no reason actualy (all games with windows life could work without it ...) or almost criminalising some of their fans which got many games from friends and over the net as used game. I mean I dont demand free content. But it shows that some companies thought about their playerbase as a long time investment and not a short time hype. Or what ever you want to call it.

Why do they even complain ? Its not like other companies dont survive second hand buisness. If everyone would now demand from the consumer to always buy a new car instead of used ones ... or if we would never have a chance to get used equiped. I doubt that would work for many. But strange enough the gamer is ready to accept it all. Regardless how obtrusive it is or how much of his rights are taken away explaining him that its "comfortable" (you get features with your account ...) or that they have to fight piracy.

I guess the console sees a lot more second hand games then the PC at the moment. But who knows for how long ...

Sander said:
This move is aimed purely at killing the secondhand market.
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Exactly. And thats why I hate them for doing it. Its not like console games arent expensive enough already. They usualy tend to be between 10-20% more expensive compared to PC games. And I always asked my self why. many games also tend to take a long time before they drop in prices if ever some block buster titles released a year ago cost almost as much like they did after day one. And here second hand games helped a lot to people that wanted to get the gaming experience but did not had the money to buy 4-5 games for 60$ each. here it helped already a lot if you could get them either from a friend or ebay for just half the prize. Now it feels like "sorry budy but its your bad that youre not a rich bastard! But we want you to buy the game full prize!"
 
They don't see those people as criminals, they see a group of people that they can make a profit off. That's all there is to it, and it annoys me that every time a company does something like this people go "Waahhhh they're evil they hate us". Bullshit. They're just trying to make as much money as possible, just like almost every business.

Which is exactly where those little 'gifts' as you call them came from: the mere fact that you see them as added value should show you that they're just part of the product. Companies add them in if they think it can get them extra sales. After a while they figured out that they could make these extras, and then charge extra for them in the form of 'deluxe' packs. So now they're doing that.

Crni Vuk said:
Why do they even complain ? Its not like other companies dont survive second hand buisness. If everyone would now demand from the consumer to always buy a new car instead of used ones ... or if we would never have a chance to get used equiped. I doubt that would work for many. But strange enough the gamer is ready to accept it all. Regardless how obtrusive it is or how much of his rights are taken away explaining him that its "comfortable" (you get features with your account ...
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Eh...what exactly do you expect a gamer to do against this? Storm EA and kill the president?
Because all anyone can do is not buy the games. And why would people who don't care about the second-hand market anyway not buy their products?

Crni Vuk said:
Exactly. And thats why I hate them for doing it. Its not like console games arent expensive enough already. They usualy tend to be between 10-20% more expensive compared to PC games. And I always asked my self why.
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Because that's what people are willing to pay for it.

This is not some complicated topic. It's simple market economics which is in practice in almost every segment of business. But when people on the internet realise it also applies to games, then oh no these corporations are mighty evil!
 
Paying for multiplayer? This is ridiculous. You buy a full-priced game AND have to pay even further for being able to play it online? Or did I understand it wrong?

What's next? Paying for patches?
 
Sander said:
"Waahhhh they're evil they hate us". Bullshit. They're just trying to make as much money as possible, just like almost every business.
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Not every buisness. It might be a surprise for some. But there are actualy companies that think making money AND beeing fair to consumers is NOT mutualy exclusive. Sadly most if not all game companies tend to forget that slowly.

Sander said:
Which is exactly where those little 'gifts' as you call them came from: the mere fact that you see them as added value should show you that they're just part of the product. Companies add them in if they think it can get them extra sales. After a while they figured out that they could make these extras, and then charge extra for them in the form of 'deluxe' packs. So now they're doing that.
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From gamers for gamers ? Remember it ? As said maybe I am naive. But yeah I really believed that part. At least about some companies. But it might have feelt a bit more personal in the past with smaller teams of programmers where you could tell who was in charge. Today it seems to me its only about the Todds and Marketing chiefs runing the buisness and all decisions.

I have no doubt that a company wants to make money they HAVE to make money. Every buisness has. But gifts to the community have not been uncommon. And I do believe that sometimes it was done as real "gift" to fans of a franchise/game. Even if it have been most of the time rather small things like maps, the one or other new player skin or something. But that was from a time when modding was still seen as a hobby for the geeks.
 
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