European Film noir

I saw Femme Nikita too long ago to remember it, I'll have to watch it again.

Haven't watched much noir lately, apart from one which I quite liked; Brick.
 
Aye, The Count of Monte Cristo is where it's from. As with my name.

I've seen a few versions of Monte Cristo movies (perhaps three or so of the idiotic amount of almost 20) and the version with Gérard Depardieu was pretty much the only one I really liked, it translated the book onto the screen much more accurate than many of the other ones, but still had its very own flair.

And Depardieu is the only actor who, for me, translated the imposing feeling of grandness and bitterness that was to become a part of the Count after his return. The other versions all seem to toss and turn with the story, add something, loose something, and generally fail to hit the spot when it comes to the part of getting revenge. Sadly, the first time I saw it was in Germany, which pretty much presupposes a German dub. It wasn't a bad dub, but a dub nonetheless.

I haven't seen Vidocq, but a few seconds of internet search do leave me interested. I'll see whether I can dig it up somewhere.
 
Vidocq is a bit confusing at first and definetly soemthing you have to get used to particularly since the way how the movie is explained well to say that the movie is really long. But its worth. I really liked it since the end was never really predictable. I guess that comes a bit from some of the confusing scenes.

I think its more of the "usual" movies, not one of the ones that had great funds or such. Thus dont expect the best and modern effects. Though I think its more the setting and acting that is interesting. For what the movie has to offer its really good.
 
Funny, I never thought of the Third Man as European noir, in part because its so British.

If we include British films, than we include a lot of movies- so much so that I think the difference between Hollywood noir and European noir is illusory. Lots of Sci-Fi, for instance, is done in Europe as are lots of action flicks.

When I think European Noir- I usually think French, German, Italian. I admit, i have trouble deciding if Smilla's Sense of Snow is European Noir (as there is so much of Denmark in the film) or Hollywood- given the nature of its cast and the style of film.
 
welsh said:
Funny, I never thought of the Third Man as European noir, in part because its so British.

If we include British films, than we include a lot of movies- so much so that I think the difference between Hollywood noir and European noir is illusory. Lots of Sci-Fi, for instance, is done in Europe as are lots of action flicks.

When I think European Noir- I usually think French, German, Italian. I admit, i have trouble deciding if Smilla's Sense of Snow is European Noir (as there is so much of Denmark in the film) or Hollywood- given the nature of its cast and the style of film.
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What good Sci-Fi flicks from Brittan would you suggest?
 
I think Clock Work Orange most people know by now. It was a British production? Though I am not sure if its Sci-Fiction. But it has "brain washing" as theme. Somewhat. Its kind a disturbing movie.
 
If I were to think about recent films- Weren't the 28 Days Later films made in England?

Others might include The Fly, Day of the Triffads, Sunshine- a list can be found here-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_science_fiction_films

But that's not complete.
I believe much of Star Wars was done in England as well.

Consider the amount of fiction and television put out by England that is of a sci-fi nature, its perhaps not surprising.

Although this discussion of the difference of English vs Hollywood might surprise some-
http://www.scansite.org/scan.php?pid=167

(I think the author is a bit selective in his illustrative cases).

I suspect the reason is that the Brits have a pretty good sci-fi industry and a powerful film industry. Many "hollywood" films were shot in England- not just Sci-Fi. Saving Private Ryan, for instance, is a Hollywood film made in England.
 
If I were to think about recent films- Weren't the 28 Days Later films made in England?

Others might include The Fly, Day of the Triffads, Sunshine, Clockwork Orange- a list can be found here-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_science_fiction_films

But that's not complete.
I believe much of Star Wars was done in England as well.

Consider the amount of fiction and television put out by England that is of a sci-fi nature, its perhaps not surprising.

Although this discussion of the difference of English vs Hollywood might surprise some-
http://www.scansite.org/scan.php?pid=167

(I think the author is a bit selective in his illustrative cases).

I suspect the reason is that the Brits have a pretty good sci-fi industry and a powerful film industry. Many "hollywood" films were shot in England- not just Sci-Fi. I think Saving Private Ryan, for instance, is a Hollywood film made in England.

Consider this list of best British films-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFI_Top_100_British_films

Many would seem like hollywood productions.

For a discussion of recemt British noir-
http://www.noiroftheweek.com/2007/07/british-neo-noir-part-1-mona-lisa-1986.html
 
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