Falklands

[34thcell]

The UK wont let them, they're not interested in them being independent. Personally I would gladly accept them as an independent south american neighbor if it meant it would get rid of the British presence and their claims, like their antarctic claims.

The British would still prefer an independent state over Argentinean rule. And for economic and military purposes it would anyway function as a British territory. Only now you could end up with a US presence as well.

 

[Gonzalez]

And that's why it will never be an independent state, they can't work as one, they are totally dependant on the UK for everything, wich bring us back to my point, the islands cannot be kept by the UK under the pretext of self determination, the land the 2.000 villagers of "Port Stanley" live in is not theirs, it's the UK's colonial property. They're a town inside a british colony, not a nation.

Also, the british divided the colony in two jurisdictions, one that comprises the islands themselves, and another one that comprises the South Sandwich and Georgias, they are two different "oversea territories". If they won't negotiate under pretexts of self determination then what pretexts do they have for the jurisdiction not a soul lives in?

And just so that there are no more confusions, "overseas territories" is nothing but a nice name for a colony, legally speaking they're exactly the same thing.

@TheGM: Keep trolling and you'll be the recipient of my first issued strike on this forum. Been patient with you thus far but don't push it.

 

[TheGM]

So pointing out the hypocrisy of posters and the pure lunacy of the thoughts and opinions they share is now trolling, eh.

Yeah ok.

I guess only certain people are only allowed to make bat shit crazy loony loon statements of loonation, and want that privilege all to themselves.

 

[TorontoReign]

So pointing out the hypocrisy of posters and the pure lunacy of the thoughts and opinions they share is now trolling, eh.

Yeah ok.

I guess only certain people are only allowed to make bat shit crazy loony loon statements of loonation, and want that privilege all to themselves.

I guess it depends on how you say it?

 

[TheGM]

So pointing out the hypocrisy of posters and the pure lunacy of the thoughts and opinions they share is now trolling, eh.

Yeah ok.

I guess only certain people are only allowed to make bat shit crazy loony loon statements of loonation, and want that privilege all to themselves.

I guess it depends on how you say it?

like In a funny voice?

 

[Gonzalez]

You wanted to point out hypocrisy? Fine, you did it, we got it the first time, you don't need to keep posting it, especially when it doesn't contributes to the discussion.

So from now on, if you have an opinion, back it up with reason, and if you just have something to say, say it respectfully. Otherwise you'll lead me to believe you're just trying to take the piss out of me AKA: trolling. If you just want to sound funny I'm sure there are other threads more suited for it.

Now if you want to keep discussing wether you're trolling or not PM me about it because I won't drive this thread off topic.

 

[34thcell]

And that's why it will never be an independent state, they can't work as one, they are totally dependant on the UK for everything, wich bring us back to my point, the islands cannot be kept by the UK under the pretext of self determination, the land the 2.000 villagers of "Port Stanley" live in is not theirs, it's the UK's colonial property. They're a town inside a british colony, not a nation.

Also, the british divided the colony in two jurisdictions, one that comprises the islands themselves, and another one that comprises the South Sandwich and Georgias, they are two different "oversea territories". If they won't negotiate under pretexts of self determination then what pretexts do they have for the jurisdiction not a soul lives in?

And just so that there are no more confusions, "overseas territories" is nothing but a nice name for a colony, legally speaking they're exactly the same thing.

But I was pointing out that international law could be followed exactly, with the British retaining effective military and economic control over the Falklands. I agree with you in regards to self-determination being about independence, not a choice of dependence, but I don't see how this can be enforced beyond the political/symbolic level.

 

[TorontoReign]

So pointing out the hypocrisy of posters and the pure lunacy of the thoughts and opinions they share is now trolling, eh.

Yeah ok.

I guess only certain people are only allowed to make bat shit crazy loony loon statements of loonation, and want that privilege all to themselves.

I guess it depends on how you say it?

like In a funny voice?

Possibly ....

 

[.Pixote.]

I think it might be time to lock this thread, we seem to be going in circles. The arguments have been made, and only time will determine the final outcome for that little island off the coast of South America.

 

[Gonzalez]

Agreed