Fallout 2 Restoration Project 1.1 (Unofficial FO2 Expansion)

[holyshoot13]

Also the brain seems to forget that you've optimized the power plant (if I talk a few days later to him he brings up the same dialogue as you never optimized the plant)

Yeah, The Brain seems to be bugged -- I also can't seem ask him to stop the molerat attacks like I could in 1.0 (although there I could ask him to stop the attacks even before I knew about them).

 

[MutantOne]

hmm... didnt find it mentioned before.. so:

I got a crash every time trying to use the elevator (utility level) in the EPA... no matter which level i choose, the screen goes black and i'm out...

fresh copy of F2, no patch, Restoration 1.1...
got XP x64 Professional, i hope thats not the problem... since everything else seems to work.

Same here And that means I can't explore the EPA... In fact, the game crashes as soon as I try using the elevator.

Anyway, THANK YOU killap for completing Fallout !!!!


EDIT : oh well, I just got in through another way and I have the exact same problem... the elevators crashes the game.

 

[***F.E.A.R.***MaNiaC]

hmm... didnt find it mentioned before.. so:

I got a crash every time trying to use the elevator (utility level) in the EPA... no matter which level i choose, the screen goes black and i'm out...

fresh copy of F2, no patch, Restoration 1.1...
got XP x64 Professional, i hope thats not the problem... since everything else seems to work.

Same here And that means I can't explore the EPA... In fact, the game crashes as soon as I try using the elevator.

Anyway, THANK YOU killap for completing Fallout !!!!


EDIT : oh well, I just got in through another way and I have the exact same problem... the elevators crashes the game.

you found the second elevator, with the same script on it?

seems like the game has troubles changing the map..

btw, thanks from me too... didnt thank you before, was too excited... and I'm emotionally crippled anyway

 

[hakan]

More on encounters:

Deever is right.
the graphics mode has a huge influence on travel speed and encounters.

If i switch from mode 5 to mode 2 I travel about three times as fast (the "range-time passed" relation stays about the same it seems) and get MUCH less encounters...
Extremely few even. I can travel vault city-NCR route by feet and have less than two encounters on average on the hole track (sometimes none, sometimes 2...)

Also, have the encounters been buffed?
While I was testing the route I encountered raiders a few times, and they completely ripped me to shreds.
I get hit for 30-50 HP(non critical) from across half the screen by single bursts and dont survive a single round (My bursts with a looted CWAS do about 5-10 damage at this range...).
I wear the quest leather armour from modoc so I'm not really that well armoured, but meeting a group of eight(!) raiders, each(!) of which hits me for 30+damage in bursts from half the combat map away seems a bit excessive.

 

[Yoshi525]

Cheers! Great work.

 

[tomten]

While I was testing the route I encountered raiders a few times, and they completely ripped me to shreds.

Same here; if I even go close to the south parts of the world map there's always people with huge laser guns against whom I've no chance (enclave patrols, raiders, ...). I don't remember this from vanilla FO2...

 

[nephwork]

car trunk problem

I just went to Den and gave to smitty the fuel cell controller and after bought it, then I gave him the regulator and then I went to the car and click on the trunk to put my stuff there...and when I clicked the trunk my character picked the cartrunk to the inventory (it also disppeared from the car). it shows in the top of the inventory as a blank space but the binoculars-cursor works on it and says 'Cartrunk' when I drag it to the blank space.

After that I tried to use the car and then came a windows pop-up where was this text:

Error!: partyMemberPrepItemSaveAll: Can't find script!

 

[MutantOne]

you found the second elevator, with the same script on it?

seems like the game has troubles changing the map..

Well, there's a place with 1 elevator and another one with 3 or 4, and they all crash my game
I had this problem 1.0 so I started a new game with 1.1 and this didn't work (it means that i have 2 different savegames for the same error)

Anyway, I'm glad to see that I'm not alone

 

[killap]

Re: car trunk problem

I just went to Den and gave to smitty the fuel cell controller and after bought it, then I gave him the regulator and then I went to the car and click on the trunk to put my stuff there...and when I clicked the trunk my character picked the cartrunk to the inventory (it also disppeared from the car). it shows in the top of the inventory as a blank space but the binoculars-cursor works on it and says 'Cartrunk' when I drag it to the blank space.

After that I tried to use the car and then came a windows pop-up where was this text:

Error!: partyMemberPrepItemSaveAll: Can't find script!

No idea. Never heard of this before. Are we sure that everything was installed correctly to their proper locations?

you found the second elevator, with the same script on it?

seems like the game has troubles changing the map..

Well, there's a place with 1 elevator and another one with 3 or 4, and they all crash my game
I had this problem 1.0 so I started a new game with 1.1 and this didn't work (it means that i have 2 different savegames for the same error)

Anyway, I'm glad to see that I'm not alone

Sigh, so here's the story with the EPA. The maps I used were from Chris Park's mod which I then proceeded to heavily modify to fit my mod. When I first implemented his maps I too got the same crash you guys are describing. I had no idea what the hell caused it and got highly frustrated since there was no way I would recreate the maps - I'm a programmer not a mapper. Still, I really liked the how Chris did the maps, so I decided to redo the map with the elevators. When I did this it worked for me and I could use the elevators. It didn't make any sense to me, but I shrugged it off hoping that the "problem" had vanished. Apparently this is not the case. The problem seems to be that when you leave the map, the games is saving some data and crashes in the process of doing so. When I suffered from this problem I also noticed that if I would save in the maintenance area (where the 2 elevators are), exit to the game menu, and then reload that save the game would crash. Out of curiosity does this happen to you guys as well? What is odd is that it seems only a select few have this problem. Because of this fact, I really don't know what the problem truly is.

@those with high encounter rates
Like I said don't fret. There will be a way to nicely customize the frequency in the next update.

 

[wastelandhero]

This is probably the best place for this comment, It neither a bug nor a gameplay issue, just a comment on something I noticed.

After helping Lara fight at the church I got the option to wait before the next battle. Haven taken a lucky hit and lost a lot of HP, I used this time to heal myself and my party. Well it took almost 2 days to fully heal. Then told Lara I was ready to go. We then proceeded to the residential area to fight Tyler.

It seems a little odd and out of place that Tyler was still partying in the middle of the day almost 2 days after the church fight, don't you think?

Maybe there should be a time limit on how long you can wait before Lara tells you to get your ass in gear or bail on the fight.

 

[killap]

This is probably the best place for this comment, It neither a bug nor a gameplay issue, just a comment on something I noticed.

After helping Lara fight at the church I got the option to wait before the next battle. Haven taken a lucky hit and lost a lot of HP, I used this time to heal myself and my party. Well it took almost 2 days to fully heal. Then told Lara I was ready to go. We then proceeded to the residential area to fight Tyler.

It seems a little odd and out of place that Tyler was still partying in the middle of the day almost 2 days after the church fight, don't you think?

Maybe there should be a time limit on how long you can wait before Lara tells you to get your ass in gear or bail on the fight.

Heh, yeah I realized this when I wrote the quest, but if I remember there are other such situations in the original game where no one really takes time into account.

 

[***F.E.A.R.***MaNiaC]

I was about to check the loading-issue... when sulik showed me sth:

The Elevator on the right side in the utility-level isnt solid at all... gonna check if its the same at the other elevator.
You can get behind the elevator if you step into it, click "leave" and step further, click "leave" and so on... now i'm walking behind the elevator... maybe thats part of the problem...

other things i thought up are, if it crashes while trying to save sth... what about the entry/exit areas in the other maps and this map? maybe theres some leak which leads to corrupt information to be saved and boing... your outta.

Since this is no regular elevator, you could try to bypass it by attaching the script to the elevator-button instead of the elevator interior. Since then it would be a simple beam and may work... or if it doesnt work, you may find out what the heck is screwing up.

/edit
ok, the left elevator is "solid"

no save/load issue so far... gonna keep testing a bit

 

[wastelandhero]

Heh, yeah I realized this when I wrote the quest, but if I remember there are other such situations in the original game where no one really takes time into account

Now that I think of it, Whisky Bob is the only exception, because he gives you 1 day to refuel the still. Although I never actually tested this to see what would happen if you took too long.
Everyone else I guess is in no real rush to get things done.

But a time limit on it would make this quest seem more realistic given the nature of the events happening. Other quests don't seem to have this type of priority, so a time limit would be redundant.

 

[killap]

Heh, yeah I realized this when I wrote the quest, but if I remember there are other such situations in the original game where no one really takes time into account

Now that I think of it, Whisky Bob is the only exception, because he gives you 1 day to refuel the still. Although I never actually tested this to see what would happen if you took too long.
Everyone else I guess is in no real rush to get things done.

But a time limit on it would make this quest seem more realistic given the nature of the events happening. Other quests don't seem to have this type of priority, so a time limit would be redundant.

I agree about it being more realistic with a time limit. I'll consider the idea.


@***F.E.A.R.***MaNiaC or those with an EPA crash
Anything you can come up with will hopefully aid me in getting to the bottom of the issue. Hopefully it isn't just something amiss with the Fallout engine which only plagues a select few.

 

[laclongquan]

But it's strange that a selected few got this problem. I was running around in EPA for hours and nothing like that happened.

On another matter, the door to the botanical garden dont have the line of password to open. If I choose a pass, it said wrong pass and ask Head of PR for pass. But then go to the gal in level one (4 holograms) did nothing as the girl just moaning what had she done. So, it's a bug or a feature? is there anyway to open the botanical garden?

 

[Polynikes]

the graphics mode has a huge influence on travel speed and encounters.

This may very well be true, I'm running 1.1 on Win98 without any Win98-specific sfall.dll or ddraw.ini and my encounter rate is very low, between 0 and 3 encounters between the Den and VC.

 

[MutantOne]

Sigh, so here's the story with the EPA. The maps I used were from Chris Park's mod which I then proceeded to heavily modify to fit my mod. When I first implemented his maps I too got the same crash you guys are describing. I had no idea what the hell caused it and got highly frustrated since there was no way I would recreate the maps - I'm a programmer not a mapper. Still, I really liked the how Chris did the maps, so I decided to redo the map with the elevators. When I did this it worked for me and I could use the elevators. It didn't make any sense to me, but I shrugged it off hoping that the "problem" had vanished. Apparently this is not the case. The problem seems to be that when you leave the map, the games is saving some data and crashes in the process of doing so. When I suffered from this problem I also noticed that if I would save in the maintenance area (where the 2 elevators are), exit to the game menu, and then reload that save the game would crash. Out of curiosity does this happen to you guys as well? What is odd is that it seems only a select few have this problem. Because of this fact, I really don't know what the problem truly is.

Thanks for the explanation. But... I don't have access to the maintenance area : here's where my elevators are : the chemical area (1 elevator) + the utilities area (3 elevators-1 broken).

@***F.E.A.R.***MaNiaC or those with an EPA crash
Anything you can come up with will hopefully aid me in getting to the bottom of the issue. Hopefully it isn't just something amiss with the Fallout engine which only plagues a select few.

Here's a link to my 2 savegames :
http://rapidshare.com/files/84317611/EPA_problems.zip

I don't know if it will help but it's the best I can do for now.

And thanks for taking care of us

 

[sonarone]

The orphans quest bug:

I got the quest, talked to mom, went to the squatters and spoke to them. They told me that they wont move and they will fight for their turf. When the dialoge ended nothing happened, so without moving my char i spoke to the squatter again and this time he agreed to leave the building peacefully. When the dialoge ended again and i went towards the exit , they attacked me. I killed them all except one girl who kept running outside the grid. After a few days i came back and the kids were in the building, but the squatters were resurected and standing outside the building, when i came close they attacked me. Anyway the quest was completed but when i was speaking to the keeper of the orphanage she kept telling me how the squatters were a great help to the orphanage.

Too many encounters on the map.

Sometimes while aiming the enemies the aiming percentage dissapears, while on the enemy.

Thats all the bug i found so far

 

[nephwork]

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"killap: No idea. Never heard of this before. Are we sure that everything was installed correctly to their proper locations? "

just to be sure...can you tell me the proper locations of.....everything =)

 

[sonarone]

I get often some kind of error which throws me out of the game. The errors happen quite often. Im using winxp, had a fresh install of f2, on which i installed your patch and then the fallout better graphics mod

The fact that you are running another mod prevents me from knowing whether my work is the cause.

It was the fault of the Fallout 2 graphic update ALPHA1 mod, it is not compatible with your mod.