Fallout 3 at E3 - TwitchGuru

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In the list of large previews, add Twitch Guru:<blockquote> After showing off the environments, Howard then demonstrated Fallout 3’s new combat gameplay system. If there was one flaw with the original Fallout, it was the somewhat clunky combat system, which could slow down gameplay. The new combat system blends a first-person shooter style with elements of the original attack mode. For example, Howard encountered some very large mutant ants and began taking aim at them with a rifle in FPS mode. Later, Howard engaged some Super Mutants lurking in the tunnels of the city’s Metro subway (yet another amazing and disturbingly realistic map) and switched to a targeting HUD mode called V.A.T.S. (Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System). The V.A.T.S. mode freezes game time and displays the various body parts of the enemy - head, torso, arms and legs - with percentages of “attack success.”

Howard took aim at a Super Mutant’s head, which had an artificially high percentage of 66 percent for the purposes of the demo. He press a button on the Xbox 360 controller, and exited the HUD mode, which returned the game to a slow motion mode that follow the bullet as it ripped through the Super Mutant’s head, which caused it to explode.
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There was a quite a big of action in the demo, but it's not as if Bethesda has dumbed down Fallout for FPS fans. In fact, much of the gameplay involves player choices. Howard said the central them for Fallout 3 is "sacrifice and survive," and that players will be forced to make ethical decisions that will affect the course of the game as well as the development of your character. What will you do in order to find adequate food and water supplies, for example? During the demo Howard took us the nearby location of Megaton, which looks like a cross between an Old West camp and Bartertown from "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome." Megaton was actually built in a crater with an un-detonated nuke buried in the middle, and the town represents another amazing-looking map for Fallout 3.
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In summary, Fallout 3 looks like it has the makings of both an RPG hit and a worthy addition to the Fallout series. The snappy dialogue, black humor, juicy RPG capabilities and unique vision of the future are all back for the new sequel. And Bethesda has added a keen new combat system, first-person shooter quality action, stunning graphics and advanced character/environment interaction features to the mix. While some of the new additions may turn off fans of the original game, I for one am glad to see Bethesda is trying something different and updating the franchise for next-generation platforms. We already have Fallout and Fallout 2, so why not go in a different direction? And that's exactly what Bethesda is doing, and I can't wait for more.</blockquote>Link: Fallout 3 at E3 on Twitch Guru.

Spotted on Fallout 3: APNB.
 
Is there any way I could go for 30 minutes without a new newspiece. Please, Frith, I'm trying to work here!

Curses!
 
If there was one flaw with the original Fallout, it was the somewhat clunky combat system, which could slow down gameplay.

I don't know if I'll be able to keep visiting NMA. Reading stuff like that in the news updates is just too painful.

Then again, what should I expect from a site called "TwitchGuru."
 
" Howard took aim at a Super Mutant’s head, which had an artificially high percentage of 66 percent for the purposes of the demo. He press a button on the Xbox 360 controller, and exited the HUD mode, which returned the game to a slow motion mode that follow the bullet as it ripped through the Super Mutant’s head, which caused it to explode. "

umm ok, why are 90% of the reviews concentrated on graphics and whatever bloody mess details, the original fallout was a lot more than that, hell who the fuck cares about effects and graphics anyway? besides slow motion on head explosion sounds a bit exaggerated. however not much to say before seeing the actual game on video or such, in my case reviews were always bullshit anyway
 
I'm glad they streamlined the combat by giving me a choppy and slow FPS.

Also, I'd like an example of their black humor.

And I'm sure that the first place people would settle after the nuclear apocalypse would be next to a unexploded nuke.
 
Joe Kremlin said:
Also, I'd like an example of their black humor.

Well.. black humor according to beth seems to always invlove nukes, death and profanity.

There is the Mr. handy that insults you in the vault (silly)
We have the ticket-bot that kills people without tickets (stupid)
and of course, the Nuke-A-Pult (Moronic)

Another carbon-copy "next-gen" is perfect perview here, nothing new and nothing notable.
 
Dougly said:
If there was one flaw with the original Fallout, it was the somewhat clunky combat system, which could slow down gameplay.

I don't know if I'll be able to keep visiting NMA. Reading stuff like that in the news updates is just too painful.

Then again, what should I expect from a site called "TwitchGuru."

I dunno, while it was a shit review, as per almost all of the reviews, they were actually right on that part. The original fallout had a very clunky combat system, even for a TB game.
 
This was the fist review that was actually, really, painful to read for me. (and I only read the snippet that Brother None gathered)

If there was one flaw with the original Fallout, it was the somewhat clunky combat system, which could slow down gameplay.

Just... Jesus f---ing god.
 
If there was one flaw with the original Fallout, it was the somewhat clunky combat system, which could slow down gameplay.

Well, shocker as it may be, they have a point, just not the point they're trying to make.

Fallout's combat played fluently, but it wasn't exactly well-done or balanced. It was a pretty primitive version of turn-based and the only reason it worked well was because it fit the design so well, plus J.D. Anderson's critical hit animations.

The thing is, the conclusion Twitch Guru is trying to connect to that is "It should go RT!", and that's false. It should go into more advanced realms of TB combat.
 
wow a rude robot ... reminds me of the one in KOTOR how original .. glad to see all the previewers have played other games ... bad meatbags
 
Oh lawd. I just love how it clearly shows the combat system to be an FPS with bullet time and then attempts to make it seem as if nothing of value was lost: "but it's not as if Bethesda has dumbed down Fallout for FPS fans". Yeah, right.
 
"Howard said.. ..anal.. ..,.. ..We want.. ..it.."

I prefer to quote segments of paragrahs :mrgreen:

Howard later demonstrated the third person perspective, which can be panned out to an overhead view for the "old school" experience.

so now our beloved isometric view has become nothing more than nostalgic "old school" junk that can be seen as "cute" and "whoooaa retro!"

god i hate the term "old school", it's just another way of saying "it's shit, but I feel alternative if I'm associated with it".

also,
The main character's father, a genetic scientist, mysteriously departs Vault 10
The amount of spelling and grammar errors in this garbage made me choke on my lunch.
 
The main character's father, a genetic scientist, mysteriously departs Vault 10

I'm pretty sure that line alone tells us more about Fallout 3's story than anything else...

It'll turn out that

A) Father was behind the new Mutants

OR

B) Father wanted to cure Mutants

OR

C) Father is Master 2: Electric Boogaloo...
 
Hi generalissimofurioso,

The more we hear about this, the more it sounds like Fallout POS, doesn't it?

-Loads of pointless cursing
-Stupid humor
-Stupid weapons
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
Hi generalissimofurioso,

The more we hear about this, the more it sounds like Fallout POS, doesn't it?

-Loads of pointless cursing
-Stupid humor
-Stupid weapons

Yeah, I have beaten POS and from what I've seen, it's syncing up nicely...

The constant barrage of pointless cursing...

The immature level of humor (POS had "wee-wee" jokes, FO3 has jokes about hats, not that big a difference if you ask me)...

Even the weapons strike me as similar! (Meat Cannon = Fat Man)

My only solace comes from the fact that in FO3, you won't be able to play as a smartass ghoul with the ability to do backflips and shoot dual-wielded Turbo Plasma Pistols.
 
xdarkyrex said:
I dunno, while it was a shit review, as per almost all of the reviews, they were actually right on that part. The original fallout had a very clunky combat system, even for a TB game.

indeed. anyone whos played jagged alliance could easily spot the flaws in the turn based combat of fallout, but that wasn't all there was to the game.
 
Joe Kremlin said:
Also, I'd like an example of their black humor

According to Todd, violence IS the black humor, because its funny and i guess... black?

Profanity and bloody mess trait were the only things Beth found funny in FO, so they know incorporate that trait in all chars and put every npc starting and ending a sentence with "fuck", just like todd...


"Violence is fucking funny, thats the reason we are fucking doing fallout 3"... :/
 
generalissimofurioso said:
[...]My only solace comes from the fact that in FO3, you won't be able to play as a smartass ghoul with the ability to do backflips and shoot dual-wielded Turbo Plasma Pistols.

Don't give them anymore ideas.
 
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