After the demise of 3DO all licenses were sold to big software houses which probably don't pay millions for not doing anything with it. System Shock 2 has been released after a lot of struggles. Fallout is the strongest post-apocalyptic brand there is. Interplay is still making money with parts 1+2 (i'm finally buying the english version in a week, only played german for now). You can be sure the brand won't die - and with it there will be a Fallout 3.
Fallout 3 is dead, face it
- Thread starter Inskeme
- Start date
- Status
APTYP said:
Exactly my point. They've been failures lately because their products weren't profitable enough. While I liked Fallout and I'd definately buy F3, but could you promise me - or an Interplay head honcho - that F3 would be a mainstream blockbuster?
Personally, I think thats why F3 got cut. When you only have 7 grand in the bank, you simply can't afford to shell out large amounts of cash on a game that isn't guaranteed to recoup that investment.
[PCE]el_Prez
Vault Fossil
That partialy makes sense. The only problem is that Fallout 3 WOULD be a huge success. So this means that the problem is still with interplay, not with us. Their to stupid to know whats going to sell good and what is not.
How do you figure? Both F1 and F2 weren't exactly the best sellers on the market, and outside of Fallout forums, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who even knows what Fallout is. Lionheart, which also used the Special system, didnt sell too great either.
Sorry, but I don't buy the "Fallout 3 would be a huge success" idea. I like Fallout as much as the next guy, but Fallout fans on the internet just aren't a large enough demographic to assume that they'll make a game a huge success. Fallout 3 was cancelled, no? No company cancels games that would be Huge Successes. Even "Intergay" or whatever phrase you like to use.
Interplay's job is not to make anyone but its shareholders happy, which is done through profitable products.
And this might be offensive - I apologize in advance - but when I see the forum description for F:BOS here... what makes you think they aren't not OK with that?
And this might be offensive - I apologize in advance - but when I see the forum description for F:BOS here... what makes you think they aren't not OK with that?
the fact that they killed F3. they deserve suffering. they will receive it. sooner or later. and i(as many more here) shall do all what i can to make it real. as(though not limited to) boycotting, petitions, encouraging other companies to complete what they have stopped.etc.etc
Well, Fallout 1+2 might not have been instant successes. But I see only few games that had so much reprints. These days there is another bundle coming out here in Europe on Amazon UK. While other games really age with the time (look at Anachronox, great game but sooo ugly now), Fallout just keeps it gritty look. 2D is more about art and not techs and so it isn't that exposed to aging. I really believe there are still people discovering this game. People looking for post-apocalypse games - and finally finding the best there is. Fallout 3 is not the fast money bringer, that's one of the reasons Interplay cancelled it. But in the long run the money comes in - and that is much longer than the short-lived console games do (which I also love, but no one buys PSX games anymore).
Francisco M L S G S
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Bobbin said:
You know... i've decided to show this game only to patient people.
One thing I noticed was that the begining of both FO and FO2 was boring to most players.
Patient people keep playing and end up saying that the game's preety cool.
This happened to me just yesterday
When you only have 7 thousand bucks in the bank, you need a money-maker right friggin now. Any game, if even infinite time, will make a ton of money.
Aside - when I see people saying things like 'Burn interplay' and 'I want to see them hang for their crimes', its time to re-focus your priorities in life. Sorry, just wanted to get that off my chest. Yeesh.
flatlinedeath666
Still Mildly Glowing
ESpark said:
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT??? WITHOUT FALLOUT 3 THERE IS NO POINT IN LIFE!!!
Really though, seriously. Even though Fallout 3 is my most anticipated game (I'm still holding hope for it, its been dealt blows like this before... Okeedokee maybe it hasen't had its team completely fired, but ya never know...), I realize it isn't the only thing in life. By the way some people here react, I wonder if anybody has commited suicide over Fallout 3 being cancelled, or if someone really IS planning a plot to kill Herve Cain or Chuck Cuervas.
[PCE]el_Prez
Vault Fossil
Fallout ranks in the top 10 of greatest games of all time (according to PC Gamer, i don't remember where on the list they are and im not going scavaging into my garage to find the exact issue) along with games like Deus Ex and Half Life wich are both planning sequels that are expected to be huge successes. I think the gaming world has knowledge and respect for the 'fallout' series (even after FO:T) and would eat up a PC release of Fallout 3. The problem, is that with every FO:BoS that comes out... the gamers are begining to associate 'fallout' with 'crappy spin off'.
flatlinedeath666
Still Mildly Glowing
[PCE said:
Actually, Fallout is on the top 10 lists of greatest games of all time in like every list I've seen. PC Gamer, Computer Gaming World, hell even internet game sites.
Critical Success does not equal financial success. Fallout is one of many so-called 'good' franchises that, despite critical success, somehow fails at gaining any sort of reasonable audience. System Shock 2 comes to mind. People will tell you up and down that SS3 deserves a sequal, despite the fact that it almost single-handedly made another company go down - Looking Glass.
[PCE]el_Prez
Vault Fossil
All the Fallout games so far have obtained financial success.
ESpark said:
That's not true. They published two very unsuccesful games before SS2 (a sports game and some other title). If SS2 had been a really huge success it would have saved LG, but it just brought in a little more than its development costs. SS2 is also game which makes money after a longer time span. I think by now it would have been a medium financial success for LG - if they were still around.
ESpark , a company with a desire to make profit doesn't cancel a game like Fallout 3 wich might bring in a modest profit , but still it would be PROFIT and gives a go to games like Lionheart(for fuck's sake , even Diablo fans think this games suxs) , so your point is totally unfounded.
The only money looser in Interplay is the management team.
The only money looser in Interplay is the management team.
In that case wouldn't it also make sense to sell the PC rights for a lot of money, so they can use it to fund the other games they have in developement? I think it's a dead debate that they can keep the console rights and sell off the PC rights, and code for VB, I'm sure that they must see that just letting it sit would make them no money. They can't really be so dense as to believe that they can survive at this point. FOBOS isn't going to make them enough money.
- Status