Jiggly McNerdington
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
And not related to the thread at all, but nice name and avatar. Been enjoying the hell out of that show.Winchester said:
The world ends with you should be the winner.
I can't believe that FO3 NPCs were considered superb. There's a number of non-rpgs that have better NPCs.
Sad but true, no American gaming magazine or website will give a GOTY to a non-American game, even if it's better than the American candidate.
I can't believe that FO3 NPCs were considered superb. There's a number of non-rpgs that have better NPCs.
Gentlemen said:
Sad but true, no American gaming magazine or website will give a GOTY to a non-American game, even if it's better than the American candidate.
cratchety ol joe
Mildly Dipped
Oh look a blah blah blah of the year award.
I'm in a thoroughly un-festive mood and would like to add that this as an anything of the year...
The games industry is becoming one big circle-jerk.
And in the same light you'll be please to know that nominated for best cratchety ol joe of the year has been awarded to me!
I'm going to leave now as I can feel RAGE rising and don't want to explode it all over these forums.
I'm in a thoroughly un-festive mood and would like to add that this as an anything of the year...
The games industry is becoming one big circle-jerk.
And in the same light you'll be please to know that nominated for best cratchety ol joe of the year has been awarded to me!
I'm going to leave now as I can feel RAGE rising and don't want to explode it all over these forums.
Gentlemen said:
Blasphemer. 3/4 of the fun in 4too's posts are figuring out what he's saying.
GoTY. Big surprise.
Weren't that saying that back in August?
I think its an optional extra when you buy a positive review at Gamespot 
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Fuck me, what a load of crap. Characters wander around? Converse with each other? What wandering? What conversing? Do they mean the canned phrases they speak to each and how they go to 'sleep', you know the things in EVERY RPG since Gothic?
Socially relevant issues? Like what? A book on the wasteland? Testing a molerat repellent? Blowing up Megaton? How socially relevant is this?
Each character BELIEVES in what they are saying? That is why it takes two lines to get Eden to change his mind?
Bethesda's profit is really being eaten up with all these paid for articles.
Please, don't tell me you sincerely believe this.sickfuck_diablo
It Wandered In From the Wastes
What was the competition anyway?
steppenwanderer
First time out of the vault
gamespot itself is shocking enough =)
RPG of the Year? more like "crap of the year". its not even a real rpg.
but then, what is these days...
my personal rpg of the year was "a vampyre story", which is also (gasp!) a "real" rpg.
gamespot my ass
RPG of the Year? more like "crap of the year". its not even a real rpg.
but then, what is these days...
my personal rpg of the year was "a vampyre story", which is also (gasp!) a "real" rpg.
gamespot my ass
steppenwanderer said:
Actually that is a point and click adventure.
PC Game of The Year Now
I don't know if anybody posted this yet (have not seen it) but now fallout 3 is the gamespot PC game of the year:
http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/platform-awards/index.html?page=2&tag=topslot;thumb;3
I don't know if anybody posted this yet (have not seen it) but now fallout 3 is the gamespot PC game of the year:
http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/platform-awards/index.html?page=2&tag=topslot;thumb;3
Talk about falling on hard times.
In my opinion it got the award more because there aren't any better PC games than that its truly a title that stands out.
Do the people who played GTA4 believe that is a superior PC title?
Only better competition might have come from the independent developer but sites such as Gamespot probably do not consider those as they aren't produced by major developers.
In my opinion it got the award more because there aren't any better PC games than that its truly a title that stands out.
Do the people who played GTA4 believe that is a superior PC title?
Only better competition might have come from the independent developer but sites such as Gamespot probably do not consider those as they aren't produced by major developers.
jediloomis
First time out of the vault
Fallout 3 was well deserving of this award.
Regardless of what the majority of this board thinks, Fallout 3 has had tremendous commercial and critical success. Go beyond this board, and you'll find that most Fallout fans love Fallout 3, despite some of the differences from the previous games in the series.
Also, some of you screaming of GTA4's excellence should really go back and play some of the earlier games in the GTA series. You'll find that GTA has gone through a certain evolution with time, just as the Fallout series has been through recently. That is the nature of video games. There will never be games designed and sold like the old school Fallout games. If there were, you would only have a handful of people buy them because it reminds them of a different time in their lives that they prefer to the present.
Regardless of what the majority of this board thinks, Fallout 3 has had tremendous commercial and critical success. Go beyond this board, and you'll find that most Fallout fans love Fallout 3, despite some of the differences from the previous games in the series.
Also, some of you screaming of GTA4's excellence should really go back and play some of the earlier games in the GTA series. You'll find that GTA has gone through a certain evolution with time, just as the Fallout series has been through recently. That is the nature of video games. There will never be games designed and sold like the old school Fallout games. If there were, you would only have a handful of people buy them because it reminds them of a different time in their lives that they prefer to the present.
Multidirectional
Mildly Dipped
jediloomis said:
Where would I find that? I do go beyond this board, but I find that only fans that truly love Fallout 3 are.. Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls fans. "Some of the differences" ? Please.. More like "some of the similarities", for example all three games have something that is called "super mutants" and in all three of them they have green colour.
jediloomis said:
GTA series did evolve (GTA IV might be considered a step back from San Andreas though), while keeping the same gameplay intact. Fallout series didn't. Fallout 3 has more in common with Elder Scrolls series than with Fallout 1 and 2, which was said plenty of times before.. Revolution and evolution are not the same things.
Nostalgia 101
Nostalgia 101
Nostalgia.
Maybe nostalgia has a *limited* place in the present game entertainment industry.
A Bethesda game has -never- interested me, until B-soft bought the FO IP.
Why did Bethesda Soft-works BUY the FO IP, if nostalgia had NOTHING to do with it?
Maybe you are short selling the market savviness of Bethesda Soft-works.
Why deny the curb appeal of doing sequels?
As game devs hunt out hooks for the 'casual' gamers, maybe 'turn based' gameplay might find a money making niche.
Or are we doomed to a time locked stasis field, an eternity of FPS clones?
Nostalgia for GTA! That's funnier then VATS exploding heads!
I don't plan to be ever, or forever, laughing at Todd's exploding heads,
and a righteous commentator like yourself, most likely,
anticipates more quality in their entertainment too.
Make'm work for their next GOTY, for you are their target of opportunity.
And the only way B-soft will hook me, is more FO content.
Oh, there is plenty of positive content about FO3 at NMA.
Please don't ask me to squeeze out examples, just use that opened mind.
Perhaps the positive is not rooted in a context that you may feel comfortable with.
Nor *should* you (or me) have to sacrifice core values in understanding how others seek quality.
Why you choose not to see how the world has moved on at NMA may not be possible until right now.
I do not need universal agreement to know what I like,
and I trust from your straight forward contribution to the positive buzz about FO3 at NMA
that you can stand comfortable in your own shoes.
Be free to fly your flag ... on any sea.
4too
Nostalgia 101
jediloomis said:
Nostalgia.
Maybe nostalgia has a *limited* place in the present game entertainment industry.
A Bethesda game has -never- interested me, until B-soft bought the FO IP.
Why did Bethesda Soft-works BUY the FO IP, if nostalgia had NOTHING to do with it?
Maybe you are short selling the market savviness of Bethesda Soft-works.
Why deny the curb appeal of doing sequels?
As game devs hunt out hooks for the 'casual' gamers, maybe 'turn based' gameplay might find a money making niche.
Or are we doomed to a time locked stasis field, an eternity of FPS clones?
Nostalgia for GTA! That's funnier then VATS exploding heads!
I don't plan to be ever, or forever, laughing at Todd's exploding heads,
and a righteous commentator like yourself, most likely,
anticipates more quality in their entertainment too.
Make'm work for their next GOTY, for you are their target of opportunity.
And the only way B-soft will hook me, is more FO content.
Oh, there is plenty of positive content about FO3 at NMA.
Please don't ask me to squeeze out examples, just use that opened mind.
Perhaps the positive is not rooted in a context that you may feel comfortable with.
Nor *should* you (or me) have to sacrifice core values in understanding how others seek quality.
Why you choose not to see how the world has moved on at NMA may not be possible until right now.
I do not need universal agreement to know what I like,
and I trust from your straight forward contribution to the positive buzz about FO3 at NMA
that you can stand comfortable in your own shoes.
Be free to fly your flag ... on any sea.
4too
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TorontoReign
Guest
I don't think I would call NPC's wandering around spouting out random bullshit "Good NPC interaction."
It's been said before, but the old Ultima games had better NPC interaction. Actually Fable 2 had better NPC interaction. At least when you do little gestures they respond appropriately based on their personality.
Bethesda is known for their great NPC's though....
" I saw a mudcrab the other day"...........
Oblivion had superb NPC interaction. I heard someone would ride up to you on a horse, rob you, and run off into the sunset say "Fuck you...I'm a knight who kills shit!", thereby making it the best fantasy game ever.
It's been said before, but the old Ultima games had better NPC interaction. Actually Fable 2 had better NPC interaction. At least when you do little gestures they respond appropriately based on their personality.
Bethesda is known for their great NPC's though....
" I saw a mudcrab the other day"...........
Oblivion had superb NPC interaction. I heard someone would ride up to you on a horse, rob you, and run off into the sunset say "Fuck you...I'm a knight who kills shit!", thereby making it the best fantasy game ever.